By the numbers: more long-term closet reflections

Since this is my time of year to reflect on many aspects of my life and my wardrobe, I did a more granular (and accurate) count of on the weekend of my wardrobe retirements over a period of years. If the numbers bore you, feel free to ignore or jump to my conclusions at the bottom. Writing this down as information for those who have an interest in this topic. 

Excluding footwear, handbags, gear, basics, PJs, I have retired/ recycled/ donated/ disposed of 120 clothing items between 2019-2024, for an average of 20 a year. The actual number differed quite a lot, year to year. 

47 of those items (or about 40%) were worn out, by which I mean they had irreparable holes/ wear pattern on the fabric, irreparable stains/ marks, or they had lost their shape. These items were mostly denim, tops (especially summer tops), and certain knits -- some of which were simply poorly made to begin with, and some of which had seen such hard wear over a period of years that it was a wonder they were not complete rags. 

Looking at that figure, I'm awed by those who say they never wear out their clothes. I am blessed with quite a large wardrobe. I wash in cold water delicate cycle, air dry almost everything, mend, block knits, etc. In other words, I care for my clothes. But a significant portion do wear out. Not in one year, or two. But over a period ranging from 3-6 years. 

Many of these items were past donation, although I did donate a lot of the denim anyway, because it might be recyclable in some way, or someone might cut off the jeans for shorts. (I do that myself with some but not all of my denim because my need for denim shorts is minimal.) 

17 items left my closet due to fit issues. Most of these were jeans and some trousers that no longer fit after weight changes. But some were items that simply didn't fit as well after laundering or whose fit ended up bothering me in some way. These, I donated. 

I said goodbye to a further 18 moderately to heavily worn items that were not worn out, yet had lost their interest or value for me, personally. The least frequently worn of these would have had around 20 wears over four or five years; the most frequently worn would have had more than 100 wears. But they were still in usable conditions, and I'm pretty sure someone else would enjoy them. This includes mostly coats, blazers, and jackets. 

Finally, there were 20 items that I'd never worn a lot and I knew I wouldn't wear in the future. About a third of these were older occasion wear. The rest were what we'd call "experiments" or "shopping mistakes," depending on our attitude and frame of mind, i.e. they were items I tried, but didn't end up liking, and therefore didn't wear more than a few times. 

I also wore through a lot of footwear during this period. With the walking I do, I actually wear out most of my non-occasion wear footwear and need to replace/ upgrade frequently. This should almost be a healthcare cost for me! 

Conclusions: I feel quite encouraged by this analysis. To begin with, the worn out clothes were mostly older (had been in my closet between 3-10 years and/or were bought second hand to begin with). Fit issues are fit issues -- we can't entirely control for body changes and it's useless to hang on to uncomfortable clothing. The proportion of "fails" is not that high and I am fairly quick to weed those out -- letting them go while they are still current enough to have possible value to another wearer. 

Taking this long view, for me, has been quite informative and has emphasized the value of frequent and thorough closet evaluations and edits. 

I don't care for the word "churn." I think it implies a level of carelessness and thoughtlessness that doesn't apply to people in this community, most of whom try to buy carefully in whatever ways we can and aim to care for our clothes so they last.

So along with my other edits, I'm editing that term out of my fashion vocabulary, at least as far as my own closet management is concerned. I'm also letting go of any guilt about my purchasing or editing habits. I'm doing the best I can, balancing careful husbandry with spontaneity and fun. Which means no fashion resolutions for me this year. I'm joining Helena in the "year of no fashion goals." 

How about you? 

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21 Comments

  • Sal replied 1 week ago

    Interesting analysis! And totally agree - we can’t control some things especially with fit and wear.

    It’s okay to experiment as well and not 100 percent will be long term successful. I believe that dressing well is good for us emotionally and for our employment opportunities.

  • Jenni NZ replied 1 week ago

    Maybe it’s a bit like the word “purge” which I also don’t like that much. “Edit” sounds much more thoughtful.
    Yes some of my clothes do wear out as well but very slowly, I do shorter walks than you!
    Checking my numbers, it’s 145 gone since 2018. Current counted wardrobe is 144. So it is a whole wardrobe in number terms.
    I had counted the number of wears of the items that are gone, 98 of them had over 30 wears. That is the number I hope to increase. But last year there was the example of the expensive tall boots ($270) which started coming adrift after only 11 wears. I felt that was a quality issue.
    I feel I have done better as the years have gone by, fewer mistakes overall.

  • Suz replied 1 week ago

    Sal, I found Jaime's analogy to food quite interesting. Just as we all have to eat, we all have to get dressed. It is true, we can do it in a purely functional manner. And perhaps that is right for some. But for others, treating their meals (or their wardrobes) that way would suck the joy out of life. I fall into the latter category. 

  • Sal replied 1 week ago

    Jenni - I agree that is a quality issue. My boots get 100 or so wears - maybe with a resole. Even my sandals get that amount.

    Yes that’s right Suz - I like to experiment widely with food too and love most of it.

  • Suz replied 1 week ago

    I also dislike the word "purge," Jenni. As applied to food or clothing! When we speak of "purging" we are almost blaming the food (or the clothes) and washing our own hands of the action, so to speak. Out of sight, out of mind (and probably forgotten).

    When we use the term "churn" there is either a failure to take any responsibility, as if "churn" happens naturally, just like it happens in the ocean, or there is a strong element of guilt and self-blame. Which is demoralizing. 

    I think abdicating responsibility or taking on too much guilt is counterproductive to good management, in the end. 

    As for you, you've completely changed your approach to your wardrobe! You have taken charge of it. Your purchasing and editing have been mindful and considered. You have determined the "right size" closet for your current needs (which may change as your life changes.) You have focused on wearing the clothes you have. All of this is responsible husbandry. You can't control for every quality issue -- those boots were ridiculously poor quality for what you paid. So unfortunate. 

  • Angie replied 1 week ago

    Great in-depth number analysis, Suz! Although I don't track wears, nor do I do "exact counting" and offer wardrobe numbers - (apart from items per category, like I stick to around 25 bags, and the overall size of my wardrobe) - I support number analysis that others find useful, important and interesting! Also, everyone on YLF can view my wardrobe in Finds. It's extremely accurate and honest. Doesn't showcase wardrobe basics though. No need. 

    Your conclusions are wonderful! Glad you feel encouraged :) WELL DONE!!!

    LOVE your honest editing categories! Fit issues, laundry issues, items wearing out, and items losing value to you as a wearer - are good reasons to pass on items to their next line. 

    This: 

    "I'm also letting go of any guilt about my purchasing or editing habits. I'm doing the best I can, balancing careful husbandry with spontaneity and fun". 

    Please do, and yes you are! 

    With you on the fact that everyone in the YLF community is thoughtful and mindful of their purchases, and cares for their clothes in good ways. Wants them to last, and passes them on to good second homes. It's culture of the site - and I'm proud of that!

  • Angie replied 1 week ago

    FWIW, I don't like the word purge or cull. I stick to EDIT. 

  • Dee replied 1 week ago

    Nice analysis Suz, I think its wonderful way to get a good fix on how well the clothing that we chose to bring into our wardrobe ends up functioning for us in the end. We all want to do well by our wardrobes.

    The word “churn” in terms of clothing management was something I hadn’t concerned myself with much until all these closet edit type videos, like Marie Kondo’s sparking joy stuff started really trending online. There was all kinds of advice on how and why to get rid of what we already owned if it met certain criteria. I had adopted the one in/one out theory for a short period, but then I began to question the sustainability factor in this arbitrary rule. It was deemed okay to buy something new as long as we got rid of something else. It made my closet more manageable but then I began to worry about  where my donations were really ending up.

    I feel we are all doing our best to enjoy fashion in a responsible manner, and I will heed Angie’s wise advice on doing what feels right for each of us when it comes to our own fashion choices.

  • Suz replied 1 week ago

    Thanks, Angie, and thanks always for encouraging us to have responsible fun, which will mean something different to each of us, depending where we are in our lives and what our needs are. 

    Dee, you raise a really interesting point here. I think it can be very easy to get caught up in cultural trends or cycles, especially in our age of social media. So for a while, the capsule wardrobe/ Kondo minimalism held sway and people were getting rid of stuff like crazy. Or thinking they ought to get rid of stuff, ought to simplify. As if a spare house or closet were signs -- in themselves -- of a pure mind and soul. (With -- as you point out -- little thought to where all those discarded items might be going!)

    Then the pendulum swings and all of a sudden the ideal is to buy virtually nothing and hold on to everything we already have, to prove our moral worth. 

    I do understand that the point is to reduce our dependence on a consumerist mentality, to bow out, where we can, of our consumerist culture in favour of values such as environmental stewardship, creativity, and so on. But as others have pointed out, there are other values at play as well. So it's a complicated issue! I think the best we can do is work out where we stand on it as individuals and then husband our own resources the best way we can. For some, that might mean a large wardrobe of items that don't wear out for years; for others, it might be a tight capsule wardrobe that needs replacing every year or two (for most items.) 

  • Runcarla replied 1 week ago

    This is good.  Yes to ‘edit’ and ‘curate’ for wardrobe management.  I do need to be more accountable for what exits my wardrobe and why.  I have made note of some things, and they are on my ‘no buy’ list - but I do tend to be ‘out of sight, out of mind’.  Once it’s out of the closet, I delete it from my Finds.  



  • Roberta replied 1 week ago

    I'm with you, I'll stop saying "churn" when I talk about my closet. As a librarian, I say that I "weed" my wardrobe, which means being thoughtful about what is damaged, out of date (like old computer books), or simply no longer a good fit for the collection.  But it might sound negative to someone else. I also like "edit", which implies we are working to a better, more cohesive, manuscript with no plot holes. 

    I rarely wear things out, though. I had a loose-knit Nic and Zoe sweater that I loved, but it kept snagging and finally tore a hole. Boo. The advantage of having a big wardrobe is that even your favorites don't get that much wear. 

    Dee makes a great point. We are so influenced by the style zeitgeist! Even Marie Kondo admitted she had some messy aspects to her life. 

  • Angie replied 1 week ago

    Suz, sooooooo complicated!!! :( We need to keep the world economy going with some form of consumerism. We need to have a firsthand market to feed the secondhand market. 

    There are no slam-dunk solutions, and many compromises. The socio-economic implications are huge, and reliable information is lacking. But we all have to start somewhere or things will never change. Trying to make the most sustainable and ethical choices that you can manage is key - to your point! 

    And if you purchase thoughtfully - which most of us on YLF do - you are also doing your bit to wear what you have for years, which is the most sustainable option of all. 

  • Jaime replied 1 week ago

    Very interesting and thoughtful analysis Suz (and thank you for the shout out!). I do not track my wardrobe in any reliable way, although I am very aware of the provenance of most of my pieces and whether they have been worn a lot or a little. Definitely in the large wardrobe that rarely wears out category. 
    I completely agree with: I'm also letting go of any guilt about my purchasing or editing habits.
    I will not to go into a screed, but I am fed up with carrying the weight of the world on my shoulders. So a big yes to: 

    abdicating responsibility or taking on too much guilt is counterproductive to good management, in the end.


    I rode out the Kondo craze and will ride high during the coming maximalism phase and realize that there will always be those that agree and those that disagree but doing what I like with second hand clothing, and saving pieces from landfill, is what works for me. 
    Finally, I couldn't agree more with editing, which connotes for me thoughtful improvement, being preferable to the very loaded churning and purging language.

  • Jules replied 1 week ago

    Very interesting! I was vaguely thinking of counting wears this year since I have more time on my hands now on ‘sabbatical’ but by the same token, I’m not sure how interesting it would be given I’m mostly in loungewear, PJs and gym gear! But tracking what I get rid of and why might be interesting.

  • Lisa replied 1 week ago

    This is a great analysis and I always appreciate some number crunching. It also takes time to sort through all that data to come up with the final results. Thanks for sharing!

    You've done an excellent job creating a wardrobe that is both cohesive and in tune with your style and lifestyle needs, that's no easy feat and it does not happen overnight. Bravo!

    I have edited quite a bit from my wardrobe recently. I did a major overhaul of my wardrobe last year (as I'm sure was apparent with my NAS shopping) and I was overdue to correct the size of my closet for all the new things I added.

    While I was editing my closet, my sister jumped on the idea to do a wardrobe swap. I just sent over 50 items to her. I still have a large size wardrobe but it was nice to make a dent in it with a big editing session. It was also a lot easier to edit when I knew where the clothes were going and I've been getting daily pictures of her wearing all the new additions, which has made me very happy. When I wait for clothes to wear out before I edit, I often end up stuck and feel forced to wear something more often just because I want to wear it out. But doing a wardrobe swap instead, allowed me to let go of any guilt for editing out something from my wardrobe that's still in good condition. It really helps when you know where your clothes are going.

    And thankfully she is not sending me an equal number of items back. I was initially worried that it would be a 1:1 swap and I was trying to edit down the total number of my wardrobe so I'm happy to say that I've still decreased the overall size of my wardrobe and I'm curious what items she is sending my way.

  • SarahD8 replied 1 week ago

    Really interesting number crunching, Suz! Thanks for putting this post together. And how wonderful that your calculations ended up being so freeing and encouraging. You are really rocking organized emotional wardrobe management!

    I also don't really care for the word "churn." On the one hand, if things are rapidly cycling in and out of one's wardrobe then one does not really have the chance to appreciate them and that's a loss in terms of personal style. There is a certain pleasure, creativity, and style confidence that is born out of wearing the same garments over and over, in different (or not so different) ways. So it's good to have a sense of the in-and-out pace. On the other hand, I agree that "churn" is often deployed in a judgemental way. 

    The other word I'm letting go of is "decluttering," in relation to clothing as well as other household items. I feel this is not very respectful of the objects I am letting go of! Just because something is clutter to me doesn't mean it will be to someone else.

    Like you and others, I prefer the word "editing." As writers, we know that a careful, discerning assessment that results in few or even no changes as just as vital as one that sparks a complete overhaul. Your wardrobe is proof of that!

  • Suz replied 1 week ago

    Sarah, that is so true about the word (and even the concept) of "decluttering." I understand that excess stuff can be distracting -- although I'm far from a minimalist in my wardrobe or other areas of my life (you should see my books! Marie Kondo would flip!) I do like a tidy space -- because I'm sensitive to what I call "visual noise." At the same time, "clutter" has built in negative connotations which seem unfair to the objects and the people they might please. 

    Thanks for those kind words. 

    Lisa, I love this idea of a swap. You are lucky that you and your sister are closet enough in size and style to be able to do this! I don't have anyone I could swap with, I don't think. But I do love giving what I can to my step-daughter who is a similar size. It's great to see her enjoy it. 

    Jules, I can see how tracking wears might seem silly under your circumstances. What might be interesting is to see what tempts you (to buy) in your new situation, as well as what you are tempted to get rid of. You might want to put those things in a holding zone, because your needs could change....

    Jaime, amen to not carrying the weight of the world on our shoulders. We can only do what we can do, and if there's no fun or joy in life, then we probably can't do as much of it! Joy gives us the juice. 

    Angie, exactly -- I was thinking about the economic implications, the loss of jobs, etc. But also the loss of joy that clothing brings. I mean, one reason I'm here on this forum is that besides enjoying clothes myself, there are few things that give me more pleasure than spotting a person who looks fantastic in their outfit. It's a genuine high. And although the fashion industry has much to answer for, it also provides us with more opportunities for that kind of pleasure. 

    Roberta, "weed" sounds like "edit" to me -- it has mostly positive connotations. You are choosing what strengthens your closet vs. tossing things out randomly. 

    Carla, what I do is take those items off my active wardrobe in Finds, but leave them in a separate "Items edited out, Year x" collection. I also have collections for trip capsules, and other capsules, and for contemplated or actual purchases for the year. That has been useful! 

    Thanks, all, for your thoughtful comments! 

  • RachelNZ replied 1 week ago

    It's clear that you are in a good place with your wardrobe Suz! A year of no fashion goals sounds like a great plan :)

    It's always interesting how words have different connotations for each of us depending on our own unique lives and experiences.

  • Gaylene replied 1 week ago

    Interesting thread, Suz!   Strikes me as odd that any of us would feel obligated to explain, much less defend, what we choose to hang in our closets. What we buy, how long we keep an item, and how we “retire” the item are up to us. Judging someone’s decisions without knowing them or their situation is presumptuous and offensive.

    But I do think it’s important to not be thoughtless about the impact our decisions have on our shared environment. In my case, I’m challenging myself to see if I can go for an entire year without buying or retiring anything in my current closet. I’m lucky because I (mostly) like everything I currently own, I have a lifestyle which allows me to wear what I please, and I enjoy the creativity of finding ways to modify, reclassify, and rework the pieces I already own but don’t wear much. In other words, I want to see if I can have fun with fashion without conflating it with shopping. 

  • Janet replied 1 week ago

    I admire how thorough and thoughtful you are with this analysis. My wardrobe is an area of my life where I am impulsive and emotionally-driven! So I avoid counting and tracking, LOL.

    I also prefer “edit” over other terms that sound more focused on eliminating. Under the goal of editing, I include items that become alterations or restyling projects. I have a few bags of items in my garage right now to donate or give away, and I am increasingly mindful of how I let those things go. I’ve started offering some up on my local Buy Nothing group — I have more confidence they will be appreciated that way than going to a big donation site.

  • Suz replied 1 week ago

    Janet, that's a great idea -- I need to look up whether we have such a group in my area. Also, I like your classification of "edit" to include items you're changing up to make them more wearable. Interesting idea! 

    Gaylene, I wish you luck (and fun!) in the repurposing and remixing! I think it works well for those whose closets are already full of things they love. You also raise an excellent point -- a no buy, no edit out plan works best for those who don't have to dress for a specific environment, as in a corporate job or similar. Anyway, I'm sure your outfits will be fab and you will enjoy them! 

    Rachel, so true about words and their connotations and how differently they come across to us depending how we are situated. 

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