Help me de-orphan these boots...

...or reconcile myself to their status. 

As many of you know, I enjoy wearing skirts and dresses. But I wasn't wearing them in winter for several years. I was convinced -- convinced -- that this was because I had no knee high dressy boots. In my climate, it's simply too cold to wear dresses without boots in winter. 

I am rather hard to fit in knee high boots. My calves are both shorter than average, and a bit slimmer than average. Plus, I wanted to avoid black boots if possible, since I find black is a rather harsh neutral for me in larger doses. And it requires "bookending" with darker items on top since I don't have dark hair. 

Knee high non-black dressy boots were thus a HEWI for me. 

Well, last year, I found a pair. High quality, perfect and I mean perfect fit. Comfortable, dressy, and grey. Needless to say, I snatched them up -- despite their considerable expense -- and had lots of fun imagining all the great outfits I would soon create with them. I tried Angie's 3 outfit test and they passed with flying colours. Does this sound like a no brainer or what? 

HA! 

Guess what? It turns out I only wore them three times. You can see two of the outfits below. Gee, those look similar, don't they? And, guess what else? I did not feel fab. I felt like a lady who lunches. 

It turns out that my reason for not wearing skirts and dresses had almost nothing to do with my lack of  dressy boots. It was all about needing more casual dresses and skirts. A heeled, dressy boot is hardly going to solve that. DUH. 

So, now I have these gorgeous La Canadienne boots. Warm. Perfectly fitting. Sturdy and well balanced. And I never, ever wear the things. They have not been out of the closet once this year. 

What to do? 

Here I am trying a few options and showing you why these don't work well for me. If you have any bright ideas about how to address this, please let me know. 

#1-4: Last year's outfits. Worn to give a workshop and go to the dentist, I think. Note the plum seamed skirt -- yet another orphan. These were the only times I wore that, too. 

#5: This shows you another problem with the boots. They are slightly warmer toned than many of my other grey items, and in particular, they're warmer toned than all the non-sheer grey hose I am able to find, anywhere. This limits ease of wear. 

#6/7 Okay. Well. On a rare cold but not slushy day, I might be able to wear these with my flares. I kind of like the 70s vibe of this. But how many suitable days will arise? (Hint: fewer than 3).

#8-10 This skirt is not exactly an orphan, but it's not much worn, either. That is okay; I knew I'd mostly use it as a special occasion piece. But I'd been hoping that the boots might allow me to take it on a few more outings. Unfortunately, I think the length is wrong for the height of the boots. Urgh. Trying a few outfit options with them, but not loving any of them. 

#11  I can wear them with a pencil skirt, sure. But. I never wear a pencil skirt. And, this is kind of silly with sheer hose. Not warm enough. 

#12/13  How about a more casual pencil skirt? Well...no. Because I feel too ...how can I say it... tarty ... in heels and a pencil this short. Not to mention all the cutting horizontal lines. 

In fact, given the choice, I would always wear a flatter boot or a more casual one with this kind of outfit. (14/15)

So, why not tuck skinnies into them. The reviews of the boots all claimed this worked like a charm. Well, not for me. I feel too "bombshell" or tarty in this kind of look. Plus, these skinnies are on the loose side so I can barely get the boots zipped. (16/17) 

The tarty effect is only slightly mitigated by a long sweater. (18/19)

Is there hope for these boots? And if not, what should I do? Gnash my teeth and consign them (for a pittance of their worth); hang onto them and wear them if I get invited to a winter funeral; offer them to a friend -- what? 

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59 Comments

  • Diana replied 5 years ago

    I like them in #11 but i know what you mean about the tights being too cold.

    A couple of other ideas:
    --do you have culottes?  I could see these working with some wool culottes, also kind of a 70s thing.
    --try it with a dress/tunic over leggings or skinnies?  Perhaps with your "skirted leggings" ensemble.  This would be less dressy than a dress/skirt with tights (and also warmer!) but more covered up than just the skinnies.

  • Angie replied 5 years ago

    They ARE a perfect fit. 

    We are always learning, aren't we, Suz. One option was to toughen up and casualize the boots - which you did perfectly in #11. Although this is not a good solution because you are not a high heeled dressy boots wearer.  They also aren't a steller match for your lifestyle. You prefer tall boots that are low heeled, and more casual.  You would probably wear them a lot more if you went to a dressy office daily. 

    I vote sell them. 

  • Angie replied 5 years ago

    I *can* see them with Winter culottes though, but wonder if this is a look you want to explore. 

  • Angie replied 5 years ago

    HAH. Diana and I are on the same wavelength. 

  • Janet replied 5 years ago

    Suz, I'm afraid I'm not much help, because my heeled tall boots are going mostly unworn these days too (as are my skirts), but I do think that the pencil skirt looks are pretty darn great on you, even the shorter one. I don't see tarty at all, but I understand that you need to *feel* right. So I offer commisseration, if not advice. ;-)

    Of course, I also just did a mini-purge in my closet while getting dressed -- another small bag for donation, a pile for the holding zone (likely on their way out), and three items to sell. I'm feeling a bit ruthless these days.

  • Mona replied 5 years ago

    I actually really like them in the last outfit. For some reason, I don't know what but they don't seem to work well with skirts/dresses. If they are comfortable, why can't you wear them with other skinnies that are more slim fitting  instead of this one?

  • abc replied 5 years ago

    FWIW as I clicked through I thought, that Suz, she is nuts!  Every one of these looks great!  BUT...and there is a big but...if you don't feel great or these aren't your normal outfits or the boots with the heel are not what you favor (flat/casual as Angie mentioned) and/or the color is slightly off, then I guess the best thing to do is to let them go in favor of something more appropriate for YOU in your closet.  As Angie said, we are always learning.  Sometimes the mistakes are more expensive and harder to swallow, this being one of those cases, I believe.  Again, FWIW, I think you created a lot of great looks but if they don't feel natural to you, then it's time to move on, sadly.

  • Firecracker replied 5 years ago

    I like 6-7, 9, and 11, for outfits. I agree with Angie that they don't seem a perfect match for your lifestyle. I think you could get a lot of use out of them for your more dressy occasions, though, if they were just a slightly different shade of gray. So I think the color is the big drawback. Grays are sooo hard to get right in footwear, in my opinion.
    Given that they are a warm gray, what if you think of them as a shade of taupe? Does that open up any other possibilities? Like wearing them with ivory- and cream-based outfits? Wearing them with cream tights?
    If not, I'd probably cut my losses and try to sell them.

    p.s. I think they would be a good gray for me--I like that kind of greenish gray.

  • Sveta replied 5 years ago

    Oh no, I love these boots! I hope you can salvage them!
    Out of your outfits I like them the best with pencil skirts but with sheer hose. Yes, this is not very practical for our winters IF you do not work in the office :-( I cannot say I like them much with darker tights and I hear you on a difficulty to find tights which math this grey - I had the same issue with my grey Franco Sarto boots.
    I actually like them with the flared midi - especially when you wear a slightly darker top. See, I was looking for dressy heeled (low) boots especially to wear with the midi skirts because I just do not like how they look with flat tall boots. I quite like that the skirt is long enough to cover the boot top - very 70s glam (and a lot like that Danier skirt look you tried to match me with :-) )
    I also like them with Kut slinnies - they are the perfect color for this because i do not like these skinnies with black tall boots. I think you need a different top to wear here - longer and fluid, like your grey cashmere framed sweater, indigo tunic or blue cashmere framed sweater from JCrew - they all shoud work well with these jeasn and boots.
    And then there are sheath dresses which you really rock and which would work beautifully with these boots for special occasions. I would love a party outfit with a fitted sheath and tall boots! After all you cna wear these boots in the late fall and early spring too when sheer hose should be fine.
    You see, I really hope you can de-orphan them :-)

  • replied 5 years ago

    I read this, looked at the pics, then had to walk away and think about this.  This is tough one!  The boots are expensive, and you'd hate to have to start buying a bunch of stuff to wear with them.   The one outfit that seems most "you" here and that I like the boots with is #11.  I agree with Sharan that shades of grey in boots is a tough one - which you've discovered too. Finding tights that match is a killer (go through this every winter myself) .  Anyways, colour aside, I think Angie's got the best solution:  sell them. I think if they were low-heeled you could do something with them, but as they are.....

    FWIW - like Janet, I have not put on a single pair of high boots yet this winter, and I have LOTS of them. Not sure what it is, but I'm just not into it. 

  • Keturah replied 5 years ago

    They seem the most you and most perfect in #9 and #11, where you toughened them up. I can see how you would feel lady who lunches in them in #1-4. And to me, it just doesn't feel like the Suz I seem to have observed and know from the forum. (Since I don't know you in real life, I'm just going by the forum :D )

    I vote sell. 

    Finding them buried at the back of the closet every time you do a purge, or digging for them when you need to attend a funeral may likely be more painful and upsetting than the initial pang of selling them and moving on.

  • Jules replied 5 years ago

    Well I quite like them in 18/19 - the sweater effectively puts them in my comfort zone, because I get not wearing fitted tops with skinnies and boots, too body con. I also like them with the dark tights rather than the sheers. I do totally get the difficulty of the warm grey, BTDT. In fact whenever someone gets excited about grey footwear I have my doubts -  I definitely think it can be tough. Actually I believe 18/19 is overall a more warm-toned outfit colour scheme than your usual?

  • Keturah replied 5 years ago

    Chiming in... I haven't been wearing my tall boots much this winter either. Last year I wore either skinny jeans, button up shirts and tall boots, or skirt and tall boots nearly every day. And now I want ballet flats, booties, etc. I don't know why either.



  • Suz replied 5 years ago

    Thank you all so much. 

    I think I am getting a message here....alas....

    I really, really, really love how these boots fit me -- they are fabulously comfortable. Especially for a heel! I mean, wow! 

    RATS. 

    I do think they'd work with culottes, which I would love to try, but which would be "special occasion" wear for me, too, I fear. 

    Angie, you hit on it-- if I had Ms.Mary's job (but lived in my climate) I would be wearing these boots at least once a week through the winter, probably a lot more. I'd also be wearing that plum pencil skirt and the black one and a whole lot of other things. Heck, even if I had Sveta's office job, which is quite casual but is still at an office, I would probably be wearing them. It's just...for my lifestyle...in my small so-casual city, where even my black Aquatalias feel like "dressing up" -- well....they don't fit. 

    Fantasy life purchase, or what? I think I must have been bamboozled by all the lovely ladies in Montreal wearing this type of thing with their luxe fur coats. :) 

    OTOH....if i DO get invited to a winter funeral or memorial service or similar, without them, I'd have nothing to wear on my feet. 

    Hmmm. Well, They are very classic. I guess another option is simply to say: I own a pair of boots that I will rarely wear but if I need them they will be there for me. And tuck them away but keep.  

    Unless there is a Fabber, size 6.5 or 37, who really wants grey dressy boots...

  • Gaylene replied 5 years ago

    I held off posting because I thought maybe someone would pop in with a brilliant suggestion, but my original thought is an echo of what others have already expressed. My DIL, who loves old movies, has coined it "The Way We Were" syndrome--a reference to that old Barbra Streisand/Robert Redford weepie about two wonderful people who just weren't right for each other despite trying desperately to make it work. Maybe channel that last bittersweet scene, push a metaphorical lock of hair off the forehead of those boots, and let them go to their new girl.

  • UmmLila replied 5 years ago

    I went through nearly your same thought process with a pair of casual but not super casual heeled black boots (Timberland Stratham Heights) a few years ago. Mostly it was driven by the desire to wear dresses/skirts and the thought that they could be worn with jeans. I still have the boots. I still like them.

    I hardly ever wear them because I felt the same way you do about wearing them with jeans (I did it once at parents' night at school and felt rather self-conscious.)

    I also realized they were not dressy enough for go out in the evening and wear boots with a dress looks (I did get later dressy boots for this limited purpose and since my husband carried on about how nice they were with a very fitted dress, I will be keeping them.)

    So what do I wear them with, ever so infrequently, on the dress and skirt front? Eileen Fisher felted wool skirts. A denim pencil skirt. Leggings and a tunic length All Saints sweater dress. Do I do this very often? Noooo! Did the boots convince me to wear dresses and skirts more often in the winter? Noooo!

    What is the real reason I don't wear dresses and skirts with heeled boots that often in the winter? I have a crazy dog who goes for a walk twice a day, and pulls on his leash, tries to chase cars and bothers passers-by. It's hard to find skirt and dress looks with heeled boots that can be made compatible with long cold walks, and I don't want to change my clothes to go for a walk. It's bad enough having to put all the gear on.

  • Suz replied 5 years ago

    I really appreciate your eyes and thoughts, all. I am glad I am not imagining my difficulties. I think it comes down to a preference for more casual, lower heel....if I wear a heel maybe a bootie would have been better. Ironically, they make this boot in a bootie as well....but I thought I needed the tall boot for warmth. Hmmm. 

  • Joy replied 5 years ago

    I don't have heeled tall boots but I wear my flat riding boots all the time with sweater dresses and tights or pants-as-leggings.  Sweater dresses have a more casual look and are warm.  The problem comes in that most all I see are black, grey, or maybe brown or they are too short even for tights or anything that fits close to the leg.  I hope that you can save these beautiful boots.

  • Suz replied 5 years ago

    I guess the lesson I can take away, whatever I do, is that a more CASUAL boot from La Canadienne would be a really good idea for me. The footbed/ last just fits me perfectly, so this is something to carry forward. (At a loss of a couple of hundred $$$). 

    Ah well....

    Ummlila, you understand exactly. Changing to go for a walk isn't really ideal. I do it at times, but I'd rather not build my life that way. And Gaylene, I love that, the Way We Were syndrome....

    Oh well. NEXT! :)

  • Firecracker replied 5 years ago

    Suz, I'm feeling a bit sheepish, too, because I think I recall encouraging your purchase back when you posted about it. They seemed such a perfect fit for what you were looking for. Don't kick yourself over it--they could have solved your problem, if it were the one you had thought it was.

  • Zibbets replied 5 years ago

    Try them with your CoH jeans! 

    I like all of these, #11 the best.

    To make them feel less tarty with shorter skirts, try them with gray tights, maybe even chunky, textured ones. This will lessen the number of horizontal lines as well. I don't dislike the look of the sheer tights with them.

  • Elly replied 5 years ago

    I don't like them for you. I am on "why would I need dress boots?" though. 

  • Gaylene replied 5 years ago

    Well, it's probably not much of a consolation, but I think you have lots of company on this particular bench, Suz. One of the things I've realized is, despite my best efforts to think things through logically and strategically, I still make those $$$ mistakes.

    I lay part of the blame on the diverse nature of this forum. Spending time here opens up so many possibilities and options, but I need to keep reminding myself that I don't live in THAT city or have THAT lifestyle even if I share a similar aesthetic or body shape.

  • Elizabeth P replied 5 years ago

    Suz, if you won't recoop a good portion of what you spent, by selling, I vote keep.  I know you don't wear them often, won't wear them often, but when you DO need to go to that funeral, that meeting, that party, you may be very glad to have them.  Esp if you have hard to fit feet/legs for boots.  It's like having that party dress "just in case".

    I do think these would be better for you if they were an inch or two higher.  They remind me a bit of my (Very Expensive) black riding boots, which I've decided are much better with skinnies tucked in than with skirts.  :(

    Perhaps you start the hunt for a pair that suits you better, but hang onto these until you find them.  Guaranteed you'll need them 5 min after you let them go. 

    And fwiw, I hadn't been wearing my heeled boots this winter either.  And I DO work in an office! 

    Oh, and I don't think you look trampy, at all. :)

  • Alassë replied 5 years ago

    :( That your well-fitting boots aren't fitting your lifestyle, but I'm glad you're coming to some conclusions. I empathize, though. It's tough.

  • replied 5 years ago

    Such a shame. They are great boots and I see your difficulties styling them. I have to say you look great in your outfits, but I understand the problems with sheer hose and with feeling too bombshell. I have both black and cognac knee high boots, but both are low heels, 1" and 1.5". They look and feel casual to me, so I like that I can dress them 'up' which can often be easier than making things more casual. I vote to hang on to them and they are there for when the need may arise.

  • SW Ann replied 5 years ago

    First off, before I comment about the boots and where they "should" go, you looked, to the outside observer--FAB-- in every photo.  However, altho you did a great job of explaining why you didn't feel fab in each of these looks, the outside observer only sees what she sees and cannot understand how you feel inside.  Now that I've said all that (wordy today I am) my questions are these....do you have the space in your closet to keep them for a while longer?  Do you not foresee ANY circumstance where you might want/need them? (you already answered this).
    I speak from some experience on this....I have bought items that I could swear I needed desperately, but wasn't comfortable in,  so seldom wore.    Then, something changed--my lifestyle or needs or an occasion cropped up, I wore the item, felt okay in the beginning but came to love....(I'm thinking of a pair of pricy (to me) trouser jeans that sat in my closet, hanging around mocking me for about 3 years, and then one day, I wore them and I was happy). I just think it may be too early to jump to the conclusion that you must get rid of them.  I think a boot like this would normally last for a good number of years unless you wore them daily, and I think you might want to consider keeping them for a while longer, if you have the space.

  • rachylou replied 5 years ago

    Well, I like your outfits - although the striped skirt is too fancy for the boots IMO. However, I can see how you're just not that into them. They lend a sort of sweetness to every outfit, when you're a fierce woman.

    You don't, btw, look at all ladies-who-lunch... well, ok, maybe ladies-who-lunch 2.0 (i.e., Gwyneth Paltrow style)(i.e., quick pop-in to Steve Alan and then BBQ tofu gluten-free *ribs*)(i.e., don't get me wrong, I *do* subscribe to goop and work in a gluten-free bakery; I'm jus' sayin' is all...).

  • unfrumped replied 5 years ago

    Hmm, if there is too much heel to ever wear them, then tossing is right. But, if such a HEWI and in your climate....it seems like you might have room to keep them as an occasional way to wear dressier items for special, not-formal/cocktail occasions, and not super-sub-zero weather. The gray is a real plus, I think. And you would calculate is it just the heel that was a HEWI, or is it hard even to get something remotely refined, that fits.

    Of course you wish they would get  more use, so it depends on whether they reproach you when you look at them, or whether they go into the David Meister-related capsule.
    I like #11 the best and then the next group. I would try them with your sheath dresses. That would  not read lunch-lady to me--it is sleek and elegant. Maybe sheath dress and a long cozy cardigan.

    I would also use the "how do you feel " test. If you feel very fab in them, then that is the type of thing I may make room for but learn from it, that you don't want too many things in that category of fab but don't wear much.

  • Suz replied 5 years ago

    Haha, I love that, UF: "The David Meister" capsule. Yup, that's where these belong. 

    To be honest, they don't exactly reproach me. I do have a low tolerance for little-used items in my closet, but for some reason, I don't feel too horrible about these boots (or that David Meister dress). I suppose I must -- in the past -- have had a couple of occasions when I needed precisely this kind of thing. And didn't have it. So perhaps I bought them as "insurance."

    I just WISH I could wear them more. The heel is totally comfortable for me -- bizarrely so (I am not always that comfortable in a heel, and what is more amazing, it feels "grippy" in the snow!!). 

    How do I feel in them. Well, that's the rub. In themselves, I feel great in them. But in my outfits, I feel less than fab. 

    I do think you are onto something with the sheath dress/ long cardigan idea, UF. That could work. The cardigan would casualize the sheath. Of course my occasions for wearing such an outfit are few. And yet. 

    rachy, laughing myself silly at your comments....

    SW Ann, you raise a very good point that I had not considered. Who is to say that my needs might not change in a  year or two? I do have space to store these without any inconvenience....

    Elizabeth, the height had not occurred to me as a problem. Hmm. Something more to ponder for my next purchase. 

  • Caro in Oz replied 5 years ago

    You've already paid the money so if they aren't making you feel guilty every time you look at them I'd say keep them :) I love Angie's idea of culottes. Would they get more wear by dressing them down with a knitted casual dress or tunic & leggings? 

  • Gaylene replied 5 years ago

    Ha, the difference between those of us who don't want "well, maybe if the right stars align" items reproaching us in our closets and those who advocate the "well, you might regret getting rid of it at a future date, so why not play it safe" strategy.

    My litmus test in this sort of situation is to trust my instincts instead of my head. If I love the way I FEEL in something, then I'm more inclined to give an item a corner of my closet even it only gets pulled out of the shadows now and again. But if I like the item in theory, but not so much in practice, then I'm becoming more confident about thinking of situations like yours as learning moments.

  • replied 5 years ago

    Sell them and get tall boots in a dark brown or black suede, the shades of grey thing really is a problem.Tall black leather boots can be a little harsh but not suede.Tall boots with a skirt is a more streamlined look than booties and I also like the silhouette of your short hair with the coat and the boots.I think you look really lovely in the first outfit, much more attractive, capable, professional than "lady who lunches".
    I'm voting more La Canadienne for the next pair because I have them too and the fit really is wonderful.

  • tulle replied 5 years ago

    Please wait before getting rid of those boots, Suz!  They have so much in the plus column:  perfect fit, warmth, classic design, and a luxe, dressy look.  Being dressy, they are automatically not for everyday wear.  But, like a perfect little black cocktail dress you might wear 3 or 4 times a year over ten years, they may be still be filling an important hole in your wardrobe.  I currently have 2 pairs of dressy tall boots--one black, one burgundy, both classic.  Do I wear them often?  No.  But I'm glad they're in my closet, because there are times when a lower heel just won't do--maybe because, like you, I'm petite, and wearing bit of heel for certain occasions gets my head up among the grown-ups, if you know what I mean.  I substitute my boots for high-heeled pumps in the winter, with dresses, skirts (have you ever tried them with a flowy mid-calf-length woolen skirt? such a warm and feminine look) and bootcut pants, as long as not too much walking outdoors is involved (after all, most parking lots and restaurant walkways are cleared of snow and slush.) They make me feel dressed up in a slightly sexy, but still grounded, seasonally appropriate way. Your boots look great on you, and so pretty with that gray coat!  You may decide they're not worth keeping, but I hope you won't rush to sell them.

  • Janet replied 5 years ago

    From Gaylene:

    Ha, the difference between those of us who don't want "well, maybe if the right stars align" items reproaching us in our closets and those who advocate the "well, you might regret getting rid of it at a future date, so why not play it safe" strategy.

    My litmus test in this sort of situation is to trust my instincts instead of my head. If I love the way I FEEL in something, then I'm more inclined to give an item a corner of my closet even it only gets pulled out of the shadows now and again. But if I like the item in theory, but not so much in practice, then I'm becoming more confident about thinking of situations like yours as learning moments.


    Ah, this. I walk this line all. the. time. And I just put a half dozen or so items in a holding zone because I've been in that space where I'm just not feeling them, but I'm not sure I want to commit to never having them again. Chances are good that a month or two from now, I'll revisit that little garment bag down in our den and move those items from the holding zone to the donation bag. But the holding zone is my stopgap to try to prevent regretful purges. :-) 

    I just sold some totally fab boots, and yeah, I didn't exactly get back what I paid for them, but I no longer feel guilty looking at them in my closet, I have a bit of the money back in my pocket, and someone else has some gently-used fab boots to enjoy. 

    Go with your instincts. 

  • texstyle replied 5 years ago

    I'm no help because you look fab in them!

  • Caro in Oz replied 5 years ago

    I meant to add that I think it's perfectly okay to keep items we don't wear very often as long as we love them when we do wear them. 

  • spoff replied 5 years ago

    Suz ,It seems as though you are happy with the overall fit , comfort and style of these boots but your real life just doesn't afford you too many chances to wear them . For me the amount I wear select hard to find Items is secondary to the hole they fill when I do need them. I have a few pairs of boots/shoes like this, that I don't wear often ,but boy when I did not have them I was at a real lose at what to do.For some reason I find it much harder to dress up a casual item than to casulize a dressier one. I'm sure there's a way to do it but so far it eludes me ....lol. Anyway since you already purchased these (btw beautiful boots ) I vote keep and be confident that when they occasion arises you will be all set.

  • replied 5 years ago

    I've been thinking about this all day. In solidarity, I pulled out a pair of tall wine coloured boots (flat though, but still, wine?? ) and then another equally odd purchase: a wine MK massive leather purse I bought two years ago and NEVER use.  I marched around all day wondering whose great idea it was to buy this damn purse - which cost a lot of money, and is in a colour and style I don't find useful. So - orphans unite.  I then though about this whole consigning /selling thing.  I've toyed with the idea a few times, but chicken out at last minute figuring what I'd get back (say for the purse) would never recompense for the real value. I'd not be able to buy something more sensible, so I figure I may as well keep the thing and try to make myself use it once in awhile. Like today.

    So my question is: how do you figure out what the payback has to be from selling it in order to make the process worthwhile?  

    Want to trade flat wine boots and Michael Kors bag for your grey suede boots?  :)  

  • jackiec replied 5 years ago

    Hey I love lisap's suggestion! :) :) :)

    Suz, I totally hear you on the heeled boot thing. Personally, I just wouldn't wear a heeled boot. Having said that, I love the outfits that you've put together. I prefer them with the skirts, not so hot on them with the pants. I adore the first outfit. Really I do. And in all honesty, I'm not seeing any colour variances. I think they look fab with the greys.

    If it were me, yes, I'd definitely keep them. I'm less ruthless when it comes to that sort of thing, though. If you have the space I'd keep them. They are a top quality, comfortable, gorgeous pair of heeled boots. Funny about them being in the Meister capsule. If there is a handful of days where you could happily wear them each year then it would be worth it. On the other hand if you're not feeling them then I suppose you could pass them on. Again, personally, I've never sold stuff so I don't seem to recoup anything. Thus, I hang on.

    Ok I suppose I haven't really helped with your orphan situation. Maybe force yourself to wear them for a few days in a row, make them seem non-precious, and see how you feel.

  • shevia replied 5 years ago

    The best solution might be a trade like Lisa suggests Suz. I am projecting but I have a feeling you will feel a weight is off you once you say goodbye to these and can stop trying to force them to work for you.

  • Laurie replied 5 years ago

    Such a great conversation. My initial reaction was to just tell you how gorgeous you look in some of the outfits, especially 1-4, with these boots. I'm drawn to the look - I posted this look 2 days ago.  But, I totally get the usefulness thing.  Even though I am a sales person who needs to dress up, I work from home so it's only on meeting days which is about 20% of my time.  And, I visit technical people, mostly guys, and so could even be a lot more casual than I usually am (that pink jacket was certainly overkill for Tuesday's crowd:))  I invested a lot in those tall black Fryes and have worn them exactly one time this year.....
    You look gorgeous in the grey boots. I love the boots.  But now I'm thinking about my Frye boots and usefulness! 
    (Don't get rid of them just yet. I do like them best with the pencil skirt and more sheer hose).

  • Roxanna replied 5 years ago

    One minor thing you might try - instead of trying to match the greys in tights, why not go for a marled charcoal tight? That way the tone doesn't have to be exactly right, but you are still in the grey family. It might be great in doing grey on grey looks. Also - I love combining grey and cream. perhaps you could tuck cream skinny jeans into them?

  • Gail replied 5 years ago

    Love the boots and I think that they look fab on you, but if they don't work for your lifestyle then you have to move on otherwise they will taunt you every time you walk into your closet. I am learning that lesson with many clothing items:))

  • ElleH replied 5 years ago

    I love them on you but hear your points. You have been given enough advice. I rarely wear high heeled tall boots but I have held onto them because I like them.

  • Jen W replied 5 years ago

    I vote keep. And while I wouldn't go build an entire capsule around them, trends change and the footwear needed changes with them. I really like the outfits you created with pants. I think these would look amazing with a midi skirt or culottes. But I also think it's okay to have some items you only wear a few times a year if you are happy with the items. I have had a pretty minimal closet the last few years with so many changes after giving birth. I'm just now starting to flesh out options for date nights and mom's nights out. I don't wear these items frequently, but it is wonderful to not feel stressed when the occasions arise. This is in sharp contrast to my everyday wardrobe items, which sometimes get worn 2-3 times in a week. These boots may not be the heavy lifters you had hoped they would be, but they still might have a place in a diverse boot wardrobe for someone whose dominant season is winter.

  • Deborah replied 5 years ago

    You have received great advice Suz.  I have been thinking on this all morning. I have also found that I am wearing long boots, heeled or otherwise.  I think the focus has been so strongly on ankle boots that our poor tall boots have been rather neglected.  My new black knee high boots last year (that I absolutely had to have) were hardly worn!!  But here is what I think.  Those boots are stunning on you.  They are modern with a classic look that I don't think will date quickly.  They fit beautifully, are comfortable and you do love them right?  I say keep for now.  Not everything in in our closet gets worn all the time and I think it's ok to have the odd fabulous item that only comes out sometimes.  Sometimes it's just the right thing for the right occasion, know what I mean.    However, if seeing them in the closet stresses you, then sell them.  But really I say keep for now.  You never know when you they might be the perfect boot, for the perfect occasion.

  • Adelfa replied 5 years ago

    Hi, Suz. I don't have any solutions but just some fun stuff to make you feel better:
    1. Last winter I bought a pair of taupe tall heeled boots. The heel is at least 3.5" and I have a policy of never going over 3". However it is chunky and fairly comfy. I wore the boots under 5 times last winter, and zero this winter. They are way too high for skinnies, and I'm not really wearing skirts right now.
    2. Speaking of, I have an orphaned DVF (DVF!!!) pencil skirt. I don't really wear pencil skirts anymore, though they used to be a staple.

    Honestly! Trying to learn lots from Angie's recent posts! I do vote keep, for the funeral, and because sometimes an expensive, perfect-in-many-ways purchase can take on new life after a while.

  • Suz replied 5 years ago

    You know what? 

    I am right now leaning with those of you who say hang onto them. 

    Here are my reasons: 

    1. I don't feel stressed looking at them in the closet and I have room for them. Sometimes I feel sad that they don't come out to play, or perplexed, but I don't feel truly guilty or annoyed with myself for buying them. I genuinely thought they were a need and I did learn something from this. 

    2. Those who have made the point that they might become easier to wear with time's passage may be onto something. For example, I only wore my bronze Donald Pliner booties once last year. I felt unhappy about that, and I was tempted to let them go. They just seemed so difficult to style. But somehow this year I have found them much easier to work into outfits. They are dressy, so they will never be a frequently worn item in my life. But, I have worn them 3 times this winter already, and will likely wear them at least that many more. Who's to say these tall boots might not meet the same fate next year? If I wear a dressy item 3 to 5 times in a season, I am okay with that. Even one or two times is fine if it is truly filling a niche. 

    Hmm. Maybe I'll play around with them a bit more tomorrow and see what results. 

    Thank you all for your help -- really really valuable points and so nice to have commiseration! :)

  • Sveta replied 5 years ago

    That's the spirit - I would really hate for you to part with them.
    I was walking all over Toronto in my dressy heeled boots in December and it felt right. You go there frequently - Toronto may be a good playground for them. Or Montreal where you can blend in with those chic ladies wearing fur coats  and heeled boots. :-0

  • Deborah replied 5 years ago

    I think that's a good choice Suz.  I am thinking of  few things that I have bought over recent times that were good choices but didn't get worn much. Sometimes it just took another new incidental wardrobe addition to really 'connect' with the original thing to bring it into regular rotation in my wardrobe.

  • Gigi replied 5 years ago

    Suz, I think you should keep them if they're not reproaching you, as you say. The fit is so perfect on you, and the quality so amazing, that if your needs do change for some reason, you will be hard pressed to find another pair that fits so well. And sometimes we buy just the right item that goes with the orphan, and once we have that item, the orphan comes out to play all the time. I had a skirt that I wasn't wearing much, and then I finally paired it with a certain top and made a really-awesome-to-me outfit. The same can happen with your boots when the right item comes along. And there's nothing wrong with having a pair of really gorgeous boots for those rare special occasions. Our feet don't generally change much in size, so those boots will probably still fit you for years to come.

  • ElleH replied 5 years ago

    I'm glad you're keeping them because they were a HEWI & could be hard to find again. They are a classic style. I'm not a hoarder but I've found that certain items I held onto that weren't worn often become workhorses later when I either changed my style or lifestyle or location or just bought a particular item that made the unused item very useful.

  • Karie replied 5 years ago

    Oh, girlfriend, it happens to me too! What I usually do (especially with items that fit perfectly) is put them in the holding zone. I mean, you already paid for them, why not hang on to them, at least for another season, and re-visit the issue next year? My holding zone is in a basement closet, and I have been known to remove items from it and wear them a lot the following year. 

    On the flip side, I have a pair of gray tall boots that I purchased last year. A total impulse buy, inexpensive, and not a style I normally gravitate to. When I tried them on I had Frankenboot on one foot and couldn't even judge the fit on that foot for another month. The purchase was more like "These'll do" than "I love these!" A type of purchase that I really try to avoid. As it turns out,  I've worn the heck out of them. They're comfy, they have a flat heel, and they work perfectly with skinnies/slim fit pants. They are less harsh than black and go well with my cooler toned outfits. They are an odd shade of gray, so I rarely, if ever, wear them with another gray item. 

    I like most of the outfits you've created with them - all but the last. I think your boots also look better with non-gray outfits. And wha-huh? I see no "tartiness" at all!

  • Elizabeth P replied 5 years ago

    Good for you.  :)

  • Vicki replied 5 years ago

    Oh, Suz, I can empathize, because, I, too, have some tall heeled Aquatalias that were only worn in NYC last year and I'm as perplexed as you.

    Yours are beauties and I can see why you scored them, but in reading what Angie says about your style, I 'm sure you'll be able to find another "perfect" pair with low or flat heels that fits your needs.  I loved #11, too!

  • DonnaF replied 5 years ago

    Glad you're keeping them!  I hear you on the gray tights, however.  Who would have thought that (nearly all?) gray tights out there are a cool gray?  If you find any warm grays, do post.  I recently found a pair of neutral/slightly warm ribbed gray tights at a Gap outlet store.

    The almond (vs. pointy) toe and suede (vs. leather) fabrication to my eye counteract any tarty projections, so maybe your eye just needs to adjust?  And only view yourself in outfits straight on so you don't see the heels?

    You really need to receive an award or be invited to give the keynote speech at winter conference in a cold but dry place. . .

  • Vicki replied 5 years ago

    Sveta, you're funny!  Montreal and Toronto Chic, love it, and Suz can take on the streets there in these lovelies.  But, what's this about fur coats, you say?!  Ha.

  • Beth Ann replied 5 years ago

    Firstly, I like 1/2, 9 and 11 --- and you look beautiful, even when you find them hard to style.

    I've not worn my flat tall boots much this winter, either.  I was trying to avoid them until after the holidays -- I'm stuck in boots so long -- but now I find myself more enamored of my booties.

    I'd suggest being open to difference proportions between the skirt and boots.  I like the proportions in the Danier skirt photo you posted for Sveta.

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