Puffer shopping: Suggestions welcome

I'm in the market for another puffer coat. My Lole puffer (shown in Finds -- though mine has faux fur, not real fur trim) was one of my earliest YLF purchases and it will be going into its 5th season. (Hard to believe!) It is in excellent condition and I have no "need" of a new coat in the sense that this coat is still functional, not too dated, and it keeps me warm. It has sporty features that add to its functionality. I don't tend to wear it for outdoor sports activities.  I could probably use something for that purpose in addition...hence I am trying on shorter coats as well as longer ones. But my primary desire is another everyday walking coat. 

I wear my puffer for months at a time. Between mid to late December until mid-to-late-March I am pretty much limited to this type of outerwear except for special occasions. I walk almost everywhere and wool coats are not warm enough, plus any coat I wear is likely to get covered in slush from passing cars and require cleaning. A puffer can go into the wash (unless it has leather trim, as many of the ones in my Finds do...).

My current puffer is grey.  A lovely slate-blue-grey, but grey nonetheless. Now, I live in a city built from grey limestone, where the winter skies are often grey and the lake and roads are equally grey and the green and gold are gone from all the trees for 6 months of the year. I need some light or colour in my winter life!

I am not sure if I require a full length coat. Maybe, maybe not. I do know that I would like one in a colour or in winter white. I tried on a few the other day at the local mall. These were the best I found. 

The first two are Calvin Klein jackets. Jacket 1 is not down but poly. I don't think it would be warm enough. Jacket 2 is down but too short and sort of stupid for my climate, to be honest. I've ruled it out for sure. 

Then there is the Danier white coat, currently on sale. It is very impractical because of the leather sleeves. Nice quality. Fits very small for Danier -- I had to size up two sizes from my regular Danier size. 

And I've added in Finds some more possibilities available online from Danier or The Bay or other available-to-me-online sources. I would love to hear your thoughts on these and any other suggestions you might have. My problem: No more brick and mortar options, really -- except for sporty coats which might be available at our local Trailhead (that is where I purchased the Lole coat). So I will need to order and try on and probably return.

There is no huge rush for this purchase, so of course I can simply wait and watch and see what becomes available or what goes on sale. I'm not going to freeze in the meantime!  

Notes: there are more Syo & Kyo and Mackage options available on their websites if I am willing to pay for shipping/ returns. Ideally I would like to know the fit before ordering any of those; I can be assured of quality there I think. Price tags to match of course. But if I find something I truly love, then I am willing. 

Canada Goose gets very mixed reviews. People seem to love or hate them. Some are saying the Kensington isn't warm enough at all. They are ubiquitous around here and I'm not crazy about most of the available colours (too bright for me) but could be persuaded. Mr. Suz has one and loves it. And he runs very cold. But he also spends much less time outdoors than I do. I will be able to try on at least some of their styles locally or order in from Sportcheck and return if no good. So those can be options. 


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  • Eliza replied 7 years ago

    Suz- like the idea of a color for you. That creamy white is beautiful, but will you find yourself avoiding it out of fear? 

    I see you in a cranberry or raspberry puffer or perhaps a gorgeous Suz blue. Haven't had a minute to look for one, but the right one is out there. My puffer is black, not cheery, so I get having an alternative to gray. Coats are tricky, puffers more so. 

  • JAileen replied 7 years ago

    Why don't you eliminate all of the coats that don't work - not warm enough, leather, etc. Maybe that will help clarify your decision.

    I like the look of the Mackage coat. The Canada Goose coats look nice except for the huge patch on the arm, as if you bought it for Antarctic travel.

  • Carole replied 7 years ago

    When you talk of your gray skies it sounds like your from my hometown, Portland!

    I love the jacket you currently have and can see you in 5 or 7! I like the fact these are sans fur and the color seems like it would flatter and brighten things up in a suttle way. I like the idea of white but the leather sleeves seem impractical and the other white coat seems too short.

    Anxious to see what the other fabbers think,

  • Elizabeth P replied 7 years ago

    Suz, have you looked at LL Bean?  Free shipping, and it's only $6.50 to return. 

  • Angie replied 7 years ago

    I LOVE the short Macys puffer with the fur trimmed hood best. GORGEOUS. Pretty, hip, radiant and elegant.

    White coat looks stunning but the leather sleeves are NOT practical. I vote pass. You need a more robust fabric in a white puffer coat. 

  • carter replied 7 years ago

    Yes, I get the irony of a southern girl recommending a coat to a Canadian:-). However, this coat is so warm, weatherproof, full of pockets, has a hood, and is long enough to cover my rear. Even when it was 5 degrees F here last Winter, I only wore a long sleeve ON tee under it to walk the dog. It was 37 degrees this morning for the dog walk...I wore a pair of gear leggings, and a tank top underneath, and I had to unzip the coat before I got down the driveway.

    I'm on the tablet, and for some reason, I can't capture a picture, but here's the link. It comes in black, blue and burgundy.

  • Angie replied 7 years ago

    Btw, Zara has got amazing short puffer coats too at the moment. Lots of colours. 

  • unfrumped replied 7 years ago

    Of course I like the cherry-berry color. If it's for serious walking I would think you would need the low-hip length at least, and not the shorter jacket.
    Those dull burgundies are very practical and less "gray" but not really cheery. That said, I would find that color at least more "healthy-fase" flattering, compared to black.
    Blues are another option. Cheerful and yet practical.
    I definitely see the draw of white during dreary winter but boy I think it'd be in the wash a lot. It's bright but not actually as cheery, to me, as some colors.
    Eddie Bauer makes very warm down coats, of course--about too warm for my climate; I was afraid I wouldn't wear it enough, hence went with something that is actually not quite as warm as I wanted--so hard to get the right blend!
    Then the issue is that some makers offer colors just in one year or another. That give you a good reason to be on "puffer watch" (sort of like Peri looking to splurge) so you might grab your puffer + color when you see it.

  • Maneera replied 7 years ago

    Love the first jacket on you. Gorgeous color! Too bad it isn't warm enough.... I think a cherry red or berry color jacket would be best for you. While I like the 'idea' of white, it doesn't sound very practical for your walks-a-lot-on-dirty-streets lifestyle (just my opinion). A nice saturated, dark color like berry or blue sounds best. Options 5 to 8 look good!

  • Sheila replied 7 years ago

    Suz... I bought this last year and loved it ! So warm and so light. It is longer though. I have a very bright white... I would have bought this color if it was available.


  • Jen W replied 7 years ago

    Land's End has 40% off all full priced outerwear today.  I liked this one in rust shimmer, but you may need something with more berry tone.

    Edited to add this one in Rosewood.


  • Summer replied 7 years ago

    You may not have found the perfect coat, but you've definitely found the right colour in that beautiful berry shade: a wonderful foil against the grey skies and buildings.

  • Joy replied 7 years ago

    For your long winters you need a small capsule of puffers! Our winters are at least a month shorter than yours and I need all four of my puffers. A short one is perfect for wearing in the car. I have a short burgundy one (old) from Eddie Bauer, a short light grey stuffable jacket that can layer under other coats, an older Anne Klein black longer length that is able to handle bulky layering under it, and last year's NAS Shelly Segal Laundry coat in a silvery white that is about 3/4 length. We have strong winds, so a removable hood is ideal and each of my puffers has one, but the EB car puffer's is in the way sitting in a car so almost permanently sits in the coat closet basket.
    A berry color would be ideal for you. Consider adding one puffer this year and another next year.

  • viva replied 7 years ago

    I'm watching this thread, Suz, as this is definitely a key item on my list this year.

    I much prefer the length of the poly Calvin Klein from Hudson's Bay -- I think that is the minimum length for a real winter. (The shorter ones would be just too cold, at least for me -- unless some serious activity is involved to keep the blood moving.)  But, I am not wild about the hood as I really like the bit of femininity of a fur or fur-like trim. And, I hear you that poly is not warm enough anyway. But for me, the shape/length of that one is a really good guide. And the color is fab on you. That's kind of what I am aiming for, just not sure what color. (Although if I could afford it I would probably try that truly expensive Mackage blue one, to be honest.) 

    I'm not a big fan of the white Danier, but that's because I am definitely more of the sporty puffer type than the snow princess type. Personal taste, that is all. I actually like those patches that make it look like you've just returned from an arctic expedition. LOL!



  • Suz replied 7 years ago

    Joy, I love your enabling, LOL. Thank you!! A puffer every year -- my new motto!!

    A couple of points:

    Angie, I have to rule out that Macy's coat (which I tried at The Bay). It is not practical at all. The down filling makes it warm up top but it doesn't offer enough bottom coverage. To Viva's point. It's just a fashion item. The Zara jackets will similarly not offer enough warmth -- most are not down or definitely not high quality down. I would buy a wool blend Zara coat for fashion but would  need serious persuasion to buy a puffer there.

    Alas, the other options people have suggested (LL Bean, Land's End) mostly don't fit me. I'm sized out of these by and large, although a petite at LE might potentially work. Eddie Bauer is another option but I was very unimpressed with some coats that I tried on there last winter. I quickly returned the Essential Down parka below. It looked and felt very cheap to me. (Apologies to those who own it and love it; I know there are a number of people here who do.) 

    I'm getting a strong idea that red or berry would be a good colour direction. I know it would make me happy so that is a plus! I will go follow up on the links you all offered just in case. I can definitely order from LE, LLBean, Eddie B, but again, I did try on a lot of their coats last year and found the fit and/or quality not up to the level I am looking for. 

  • texstyle replied 7 years ago

    Love the berry color of the first one but now real recs on a specific puffer as it's not something I normally buy here in the south.

  • Kim replied 7 years ago

    I found this one at Winners a couple of weeks ago.  Jessica Smith (who knew?? LOL) It shows up here as Ivory, but mine is very white.  My first ever white winter coat! (And it's washable, which is why  I now own a white winter coat! LOL)  I think I paid $129.00 CDN for it.  I've already worn it and it seems pretty warm.

    It's down filled, has fleece inside the pockets and covers my thighs and rear.  I HATE having cold legs and rear outside, so this length was perfect for me.

    It's available on Amazon.com (Jessica Smith Diamond Down coat)

  • Angie replied 7 years ago

    Ah. I didn't read that you ruled out that cute short puffer. Makes sense.

    There are amazing puffers at Nordies and the Rack. Is it worth your while shopping in the U.S.?

    I'm not impressed with the puffers at EB this year. You are sized out of L.L. Bean and Landsend.

    Soia & Kyo or Mackage puffers get my top vote. Try Amazon too.

    Okay. Off to work with a client. Will check in again later.

  • Inge replied 7 years ago

    Loving those berry colours on you, Suz! And I totally agree that more brands should be making warm puffer coats in cheerful colours, that's exactly what we need during long and dreary Winters.

    I suddenly thought of Uniqlo: I have no experience whatsoever with their down coats but keep hearing very good things about them. So I'm very curious :-) That bright blue coat is gorgeous and would look amazing on you. They also have a few options in Winter white.

  • annagybe replied 7 years ago

    I've heard Canada Goose dived in quality after shifting manufacturing to China and becoming fashiony.
    Honestly I'm thinking gear companies.
    I don't know if Patagonia is really expensive in Canada, this has nice colors.
    Arc'teryx is Canadian and the marine is a really nice color

  • replied 7 years ago

    I haven't read the other replies here but......I vote North Face.  

    I can't copy pics from their site in any decent way, plus the links are only to the general site.  So - these are three I have personally seen and tried on and would look fantastic on you.

    Go to http://www.northface.com  and check out these:

    Arctic Down (yes,that's the style name) in Juniper Teal
    Metropolis Down - same colour
    Karokora Parka  in Dramatic Plum  or Juniper Teal ** (this style is super flattering) 

    North Face is better quality than Canada Goose (Anna is right, I did see her remarks) , uses better down, and only faux fur.  Also - no big arm patch like on the CG ones :)  You know as well as I do :  this is a top-quality made-for-real-weather line .  Not sure if you have a NF store nearby, but the one here is having a Black Friday sale - not on brand new styles but on stuff from last year (who cares though).  The ones I've recommended above are all under $500.  Jill bought the Shavana (I keep wanting to type Shavasana - lol) or whatever it's called - and it is the closest in style to the ubiquitous  CG but far nicer fabric and not a real fur hood. It is less than $600. 

  • Suz replied 7 years ago

    Okay, these are good insights and suggestions. Lisa, I went to the North Face site this afternoon and had my eye on the Karokora parka but wasn't sure about its warmth. We don't have a NF store but we have a store that sells some NF, so I could try that. Also, Patagonia -- the same store sells their stuff. I will definitely go to that store to check them out. 

    Anna, I really also like the suggestion of Arc'teryx because I got a great gear dress from them this summer. Really high quality. The gear store in town also sells at least some items in this line. 

    Inge, I really like the look of those Uniglos. But we don't have a store here. I wonder if there is one in Toronto now, though. I had heard one was opening. Maybe I could check them out on my next visit. Because there is no immediate rush, I can take my time and look at everything that's around. Of course it would be "fun" to have a new coat soon, but there is no necessity to run out and buy the quickest thing I find. 

  • Angie replied 7 years ago

    North Face makes great feeling puffers that are excellent quality - Anna is a right about that. Personally I find their logo placement off-putting. Patagonia's logo placement is better to my eye. 

    I have a Soia & Kyo puffer coat that is state of the art. Canadian approved. It's six years old and looks new. VERY practical, ultra warm and fashion-y too. 

  • replied 7 years ago

    Not to get into it - but the NF logos are mostly tone on tone now - exceptions being on the ski and climbing gear.

  • unfrumped replied 7 years ago

    Haha. Gotta love Candadian Coyote fur!

  • Kate replied 7 years ago

    Suz, I bought this Kensie white puffer last year, and took it to Iceland. It kept me perfectly warm, and I enjoyed wearing it there, and back at home the rest of the winter. I particularly wanted white to stand out against the city's often drab winter landscape. 

    I couldn't find the Kensie puffer anywhere but Costco http://www.costco.com/Kensie-Ladies'-Belted-Puffer-Coat-Winter-White.product.100167964.html, but they have it at a fabulous price. If you're interested, hopefully one of the fabbers with a Costco account can snap it up for you and ship it your way. 

  • Suz replied 7 years ago

    You are all offering great ideas! I'm enjoying the search! :)

    I am thinking...I will be in Toronto (I hope) at the beginning of December. I might order a few items to try at home and return them then if required...but also try out a few other in-store options if I can. 

    I'm also going to check our Winners. Once in a blue moon they have a Soia&Kyo jacket there. Usually not in my size, but you never know...

    In any case, the Bay has a few. Pricey, but nice looking. Alas, they lack the beautiful colours of some others. 

    Angie, I am a bit put off my North Face logos, also...though Lisa's correct that they are not as obtrusive as they used to be. I still don't much like them, though. It does depend a bit on which jacket/ colour way you choose. 

  • donnat replied 7 years ago

    Another Winnipeger here, I absolutly vote North face.
    Anna and Lisa both have good advice. I own a Columbia that I just love.

  • Gaylene replied 7 years ago

    I've been away from the forum, but I had to pop back in to second Anna's Arc'teryx recommendation. It's a gorgeous, but extremely practical, winter coat. I've owned a Canada Goose (bought before they were all the rage) and would say the Arc'teryx is every bit as warm without the bulk.

    And, as a gear techie, I'd just like to say not all down coats are warm coats. Warmth depends on the amount and grade of down. Much of what is used in "fashion" puffers and inexpensive mass-market coats is a low-grade down mixed with chicken feathers. As well as using an adequate grade (and amount!) of down, a truly warm down coat requires careful design and construction to avoid heat loss at seams--all factors that add to the cost. An inexpensive down coat, which might be fine where winter temperatures hover around freezing, might be useless to someone who regularly goes out in -25C temperatures.

    And, just to add another complication, my warmest winter coat is my WOOL English duffle coat. The coat is made of a thick, tightly woven double melton cloth that is totally windproof and highly water resistant. With a turtleneck jumper, hat, and scarf, I'm toasty in -40 temperature. So a good quality wool coat can actually be much warmer than an inexpensive down coat.

  • Sal replied 7 years ago

    I think you need a fashionable gear coat rather than a fashion coat made to look like gear.  I have had bad experience with fashion label gear - it is all the double stitching and panels over zips etc that really make a coat warm and cosy and waterproof.

    I can't offer much advice - in NZ we all wear MacPac and Kathmandu, although I have a North Face jacket purchased in the US.

    I love bright colours in this scenario - for a lift, for the fun factor, more practical than a very light colour and also for the safety factor when visibility is poor.

  • UmmLila replied 7 years ago

    I like the burgundy Soia and Kyo coat a lot.

    I think we are in similar climates and that we both walk outside a lot even in winter. I don't know about you but I hate having the front of my thighs feel cold.

    I have two winter long down jackets, a Lole one from last year that is a bright blue, with a sort of drop tail that I like to imagine looks like a train.

    And I have an even warmer black Patagonia Tres parka that I have owned for five years. It is a separable down puffer with waterproof outer shell. I always wear them together. That thing is so warm and it wears like iron. Also it is shaped to the body rather than a straight cut, so it has some style. It is an amazing coat and I highly recommend it, if the quality and shape have remained constant over the years. Oh look, it comes in burgundy this year. http://www.patagonia.com/us/pr.....?p=28407-0

  • Angie replied 7 years ago

    Lisap, you're right about the logo stitching on North Face puffers being self-colour these days - which is an improvement. It would still make me happier if they left it off completely! 

    Suz, FWIW, I'm thinking back to how dissatisfied you were with your Winter style last year - which had a lot to do with a Canadian Winter being what it is. In the light of that, I'm concerned about you getting a puffer that's too gear-ish. That's why I suggested the Soia & Kyo - a puffer that can work for a Canadian Winter (it's a Canadian company), and looks fashion-y too. Of course, you know your Canadian weather much better than I do, so feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. 

    And like the layered coat that Ummlila posted too. 

  • viva replied 7 years ago

    I LOVE that NorthFace Acrtic Down in grey (looks white). I might have to try that. Incredibly well priced too.

  • catgirl replied 7 years ago

    I don't have time to chime in with a lot of detail at the moment, but don't forget the down skirt option! :)

  • UmmLila replied 7 years ago

    Also I came across this coat from an Italian brand I don't know but that has lots of lovely colors if you search around.

  • Karie replied 7 years ago

    The red Calvin Klein from Macy's is gorgeous on you, but the length might be a little short for keeping you warm. I also love the Danier in #7 and #8. 

    Last year I bought the Land's End coat below (mine is teal). It was an Angie recommendation, and I absolutely love it. It's the warmest thing going, which really came in handy with our super cold winter last year! I'm sure it will get plenty of wear this year too.

  • annagybe replied 7 years ago

    Also may be harder to find but for a fashion down coat is Andrew Marc & the cheaper line Marc New York. One got me through a NYC winter. Though he does use fur trim on some of the models.

  • Rubygirl replied 7 years ago

    Have you checked out Atmosphere as well as Trailhead? 

    What about the Quartz Nature line at Trailhead? They are Canadian made in Quebec.

    I ended up finding one for myself at Atmosphere. I did come close to getting the Goose. There was one at Atmosphere as well as A-One.

    The one I found is a 50/50 blend in a Dusty Olive color. I have not had the chance to wear it yet as the weather has been a bit too mild still. I have added a picture of the one I found at Atmosphere.

    It is water resistant and windproof as well.

    I also have to chime in on the Patagonia's I have a couple of their facets, a goose down jacket and a goretex layer but not in a long enough length for those cold walks this winter with the wind blustering in off of Lake Ontario.

  • Jaime replied 7 years ago

    I have not read the comments, and generally speaking am no puffer expert, but I love, love, love the cranberry color of the first two on you. You need a puffer in that color - I will read how everyone suggests you sort out the details later.

  • Suz replied 7 years ago

    You are all super helpful -- thank you!!

    I am beginning to think that Joy had the right answer. I really need two new puffers. One by a real gear manufacturer, and maybe a lighter weight "fashion" one as well. Heck, why not, eh? :) 

    No, make that three new coats -- one of them being a super warm wool coat like Gaylene recommends. (YAY, Gaylene!!!!! She's back!!! Missed you!!!) 

    In all seriousness, I can certainly justify just about any coat purchase after our last two winters, don't you think? 

    I will continue the search in person in a few days when this crazy teaching schedule lets up a bit, and report back with some photos. 

    I am loving many of the options at least in theory. 

  • Deborah replied 7 years ago

    Suz, I haven't read the responses but I am so impractical!! I love the white one so much!!

  • Glory replied 7 years ago

    Ah Suz.... the coat search. I can totally relate and have come to the realization that you need several to manage in our climate. With the variations in extreme dry cold, to wet, to slush - a woman must be prepared. Plus some days you feel like the elegant black whereas other days demand a cheery colour!
    I have my pink gear style parka - I think my very first YLF purchase. I love the colour and it makes me very happy.
    I have a grey angora peacoat as well. I just recently (well actually yesterday and a few weeks ago) added a wool coat and a black parka. The black parka is from Calvin Klein and I consider it my "Arena Coat" and "Dog walking coat".  I tried on far too many too count. Purchased and returned at least 5 and came down to this one.
    I would recommend that you also try Marks who had an excellent selection of parkas. My DH has his from there and swears by it.
    I would not consider anything that is not near knee length. It just won't be warm enough for walking. Good luck!

  • Jeanie replied 7 years ago

    I see you have gotten lots of advice.  Last year I was on a puffer coat search and ended up with 2 coats.  I chose a shorter navy coat and a long gray coat.  I had luck with Lands End because they have petites but I see Angie says you are sized out there.  I can say I do love the option of have a short colorful coat (if you can say navy is colorful) to wear with jeans and a long workhorse coat.  One year I had a short winter white puffer.  I loved the light color but it did get dirty so quickly that I wouldn't want it as an every day coat.  Best of luck in your search!

  • Greyscale replied 7 years ago

    I do like the Uniqlo down - but most of it is San Francisco weight, not Canada weight. They might have a few that work.

    I just remembered buying a huge down parka from EMS (an REI competitor) when I was 13, using my paper route money. It made me look like a blue marshmallow but it kept me so warm delivering papers before sunrise or backpacking in 0F winter. But that is a *serious* piece of gear, nothing stylish about it. It's great seeing so many more flattering options these days.

  • sarah replied 7 years ago

    Love you in the red. Here's one from LE that comes in petite. You can guess what I think about the practicality of white, given that I live in a similar climate to yours : (

  • Style Fan replied 7 years ago

    I am enjoying this post.  I am in Montreal shopping for a new puffer or coat.  I am not buying a Canada Goose.  I currently have a Lole too.  I like the look of the Arc'trychex (whatever).  Very simple.  Great colours as well.

  • Joy replied 7 years ago

    Here are a few from LLBean.  We just got a local store and they are adding smaller sizes although I've not tried them.  These look warm.  My YLF collection icon has disappeared from the tool bar, but I found these and more styles and colors on the llbean site.

  • Joy replied 7 years ago

    oops.  duplicate

  • Suz replied 7 years ago

    Off to check them, Joy -- thank you! We just got a catalogue in the mail. I did find an LLBean shirt that fits me last year in XXS, so it's always possible!! 

  • Colette replied 7 years ago

    You look so amazing in the red coats, I hope you consider one that color. I don't have any to recommend but I tend to agree that the gear brands do offer the most warmth. Like others I'm turned off by obvious logos though.

  • Neelie replied 7 years ago

    If you are going to be in Toronto highly recommend that you look at Sporting Life

    They carry all the good quality lines.

    You can order on line but I am not clear if you can return at the store or if you have to reship.

    They have stores on Yonge & Eglinton, at Sherway Gardens and at Markville Mall.

  • replied 7 years ago

    I love the grey blue colour. I think it would look fab on you.
    I think I like the mackage one the best in your finds--I like the neck area on it and of course the colour.
    I also like the soia and kyo one. I'm a fan of this brand, and have a puffer from them.
    Also love north face and have a 15 year old vest puffer from them. Oh well on the logo. I don't find it that vexing :)
    Burton offers great sporty shells, but you sort of have to dig a bit if you want a plainer fabric.
    Also consider getting a thin puffer with a high insulation factor. You can wear it as a base layer under a coat. This is my strategy for this winter. The thin puffers come in lots of pretty colours.
    Anyway...just throwing out some more ideas and opinions.

  • Joy replied 7 years ago

    Once you've heard that the North Face logo looks like bird poop on your coat, you can't unsee it.  Just sayin'

  • Missey replied 7 years ago

    You definitely need a winter puffer to go to mid thigh and cover your backside. I've found that shorter coats leave me in the cold and longer than mid thigh don't seem to pay off in extra warmth for all of the extra bulk they provide.

    Lots of great options posted! Makes me want to start looking too ;)

  • jenanded replied 7 years ago

    Since I live in the sub tropics and my northern friends remind there are places you need more than a cardigan with your shorts, I can't comment on warmth. But I can say the white is amazing on you!

  • Mellllls replied 7 years ago

    so much advice already in this post,  i love the idea of a red one for you.  i "need" a new puffer too.

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