Several people mentioned yesterday that they would like to see me move in a more "arty architectural" style with my new statement hair. Now, I have a complicated and ambivalent relationship with "arty." I may like it, but it decidedly does not like me, at least if it involves draping.
So...would those of you who imagine this look do me the favour of supplying a few visuals? I have some ideas of my own but I would like to see if they are consistent with what you might be imagining.
Thank you!
I haven't got time to look for photo ideas right now, but I will later today. I know you fear being enveloped by fabric, but that doesn't have to be the case , does it? You can choose pieces that are less voluminous or "big" .....I mean, even the way Deborah dresses is anexample. I'll do some googling later today and post some ideas.
texstyle replied 7 years ago
I wasn't one who said it but it made me think of her:
Aquamarine replied 7 years ago
Some of the Peruvian Connection pieces can be arty without all the fabric of Eileen Fisher clothing, for example.
http://www.peruvianconnection......ewArrivals
Suz replied 7 years ago
Thanks, Lisa. Deb's way of dressing is absolutely gorgeous -- for her. But it's not for me. Too much drape. Seriously. I've tried. I'm often sized out of brands that skew this way, for one thing...and it doesn't feel authentic to my personal energy.
Note: Not saying I am against architectural. Not at all. I love it. And I know "architectural" doesn't have to mean drape -- it can refer simply to very clean lines, as in 60s mod (one of my favourite fashion inspirations). That type of architecture works for me, but it is not always easy to find.
Off to check the links you suggested, Texstyle and Aquamarine!
Transcona Shannon replied 7 years ago
So just to play Devil's Advocate here but do you need to change your style just because you changed your hair?
Aquamarine replied 7 years ago
I enjoy the PC catalog, although I have not purchased anything from it. Some of the reviews, however, do say the items work on smaller frames. So I think you just have to find the brand/items that work for you. Lots of fabric *scaled down* can work, but maybe more strategically placed would work too. The cotton dress, for example, has the fabric--strategically gathered--on the bottom. To my eye, the fitted top serves to balance the outfit. Just a simple example, but it may be something to explore for your delicate frame.
Suz replied 7 years ago
Shannon, good question! No -- I don't think I need to change my style. I do want to "tweak" my style, though -- and based on some try-ons at home and out and about, I have some decided ideas about how, which I'll get to in some future posts. (Just to keep you all in suspense, LOL.)
I don't actually feel a need for a major overhaul but it sounded as if some people thought it might be called for, and I am curious about their views, because I respect their fashion judgement! :)
I assure you all, I'm not stressing about this. I'm just really curious to see how others see "the new me." I think it's fun to ponder (and maybe shop!) and might add to my store of ideas!
Ledonna N. replied 7 years ago
I'm off to look for inspiration but I agree with Transcona. I think in order for you to make your clothing work you have to be fierce even when you don't feel it. I can understand the need for change. I will pop back in later with some photos. Don't take offense but I think your cut is fierce and you remind me of the Disney Tinkerbell like in leather.
Janet replied 7 years ago
Ok, I'm going to argue that "arty" (as imperfect as that term is) architectural does not necessarily equal drapey. I think it can be a more structured look that plays up geometry, angles, tonal looks, and asymmetry. Uneven hemlines, structured shoulders, interesting proportions, unusual necklines, even a fitted waist in some cases. I'm on my phone and pressed for time at the moment, so no visuals for you right now, but just some thoughts to get the wheels turning. IF... And that is IF you really decide that your new hair necessitates a style adjustment. I'd give yourself a little time to settle into the new look and see how it plays with your existing style and wardrobe.
(I am coming at this from the perspective of one who also in theory embraces the "arty" style but doesn't do a lot of drapey very well -- it doesn't seem authentic on me, and it also doesn't seem to suit my body either.)
catgirl replied 7 years ago
I'm not one of the people who suggested this and I'm not sure these images fit what they were thinking, but they are my version of it for you. These are some of a million pins in my inspiration folder. If I had your hair, this is how I would dress. It's already an aspirational style for me. Do feel free to ignore!
UmmLila (Lisa) replied 7 years ago
I don't see you in all-out draped looks, either. A lot of the pieces I think of as architectural are also black, which I'm pretty sure is a color you don't wear a lot of.
Having the short hair draws more attention to the structure of your face, hence I think the idea that highly structured details will complement that.
I have a suspicion you're going to end up with a look that's a little longer and softer than the present one, so I wouldn't make any massive style changes till this all settles out. Maybe a top with an interesting neckline.
Like Zero + Maria Cornejo stuff: <http://www.barneyswarehouse.co.....ml?utm_cam>
Oops, just noticed that Janet said the same thing.
Suz replied 7 years ago
Una, thank you!!
Those are amazing outfits, very dramatic and the fabrics also look luxe ( a huge plus!) ....and they are 100% NOT ME. I would feel in costume every second.
Meanwhile, Aquamarine's kind suggestions of the Peruvian catalogue's items were way too boho or straight "arty" for me. I would feel costumed in a different way.
This is fascinating, though, and I thank you!! I hope no one will take offence if I reject your beautiful ideas. They are all food for thought and will give me lots to chew on! I appreciate every link and photo even if in the end I say no.
Transcona Shannon replied 7 years ago
Fair enough Suz! Just had to ask :)
I'm with Janet - I don't consider arty and architectural to be the same thing. Arty speaks to me more of drape, flow, and layers. Where as architectural makes me think of angles, asymmetrical and interesting shapes. I don't really think of you in the arty camp and I know how you've struggled with drape in the past. But I can see you pulling off a more architectural look. So from my perspective (limited as it is), I actually wouldn't not use arty and architectural in the same sentence/definition.
Transcona Shannon replied 7 years ago
Whoops - strange grammer there. I meant "I wouldn't use arty and architectural in the same sentence/definition".
Suz replied 7 years ago
Shannon, I agree with you and Janet -- it's possible to distinguish the two and they don't have to go together, or only in a certain way.
skylurker replied 7 years ago
Not had time to look for visuals yet, but Approprio's outfits immediately come to mind.
I understand architectural as : structured looks, no drape. Emphasis on silhouette : play on geometry, shapes of items.
If you add arty : you add pattern mixing, textures mixing.
Gaylene replied 7 years ago
oK, flying out the door, but here's my input.
And this statement you made earlier
"I felt best in simple, somewhat dramatic combinations. I liked it when my outfits combined some “sharpness” or “boldness”..." as food for thought.
catgirl replied 7 years ago
There you go. I suspected that would be your reaction. Now the question is why aren't they "you"? And why is the new hair making you feel like you need to change your style? To me it actually isn't that radical a change from your previous look. Perhaps the desire to change it up preceded the hair choice and included the wish for a style change as well, in which case the hair needs to be considered but not be the main focus. Again, just a thought.
rachylou replied 7 years ago
I missed the discussion on this, and confess it doesn't trigger visuals for me that satisfy the conditions of the words. But I thought of Janet's color lock dress (http://youlookfab.com/welookfa.....lock-dress), which could read sporty but also not. I wonder how it would look on you with your new hair ... Altho looking at it again, the straps are wider than I remember ... It's a slightly overwhelming dress ...
rachylou replied 7 years ago
I think the pic of you in Gaylene's post - the burgundy sweater and white window pane - I see that totally for your new hair. That and red and black plaid and moto jackets...lol. I think your hair is hard core punk, which is actually basically normcore without any baby colours...or safety pins ;)
Suz replied 7 years ago
Hahaha, Rachy! So funny.
Now, I don't see my hair as punk at all!
Well, okay, maybe a little. But much more Jean Seberg aged into a crone. :)
Una, they're not me because they are dark, dark, dark. Not just in colour but in mood. Their drama is the wrong kind of drama for me.
And I don't actually feel I need to change my style; I do feel I need to make some tweaks. Some posters yesterday seemed to think a bigger change was in order and I was responding to that. Curious, is all! :)
The thing is, I do think people are "onto" something -- I think the hair is dramatic and begs for a bit of drama. But the way I create that drama will be key.
Gaylene, you are so clever! Colourblocking for the win (you were the one who first taught me that!) and also, you may actually have beat me at my own game! :) I had been thinking about outfits similar to this but I was curious if others would see it differently.
Have to run to pick up DD but will be back!
ETA: Lisa, that's a beautiful top! Great colour, too.
catgirl replied 7 years ago
Tweaks make sense! I look forward to watching the process and I know you will look smashing throughout.
Also interesting that you see my pins as dark in mood, since that isn't even a second thought for me! It's sometimes just as enlightening (haha) to figure out what doesn't work for us first and go from there.
rabbit replied 7 years ago
From skimming the thread I'm thinking maybe don't change silhouettes so much, since you really have found your niche there and have tried things that don't work for you. Leaning a bit more towards the trendy/alternate hemlines versus very classic looks already in your wardrobe might feel better with your modern shorter hair during the adjustment period. Maybe also experiment a little with necklines -- are there some that work better or less optimally with your shorter hair? Also different earrings/necklaces may or may not work.
I would also try more tonal or column of color dressing which in my experience can up the drama and statement factor which might also help your hair feel more integrated with the overall look during a transition period. Also if the color looks a bit more high-contrast from strand to strand than when you were dying (not sure) it might make pattern or marl read differently than it did in the past, so pattern might take some experimentation to find what works best now.
ETA: Gaylene's color-block suggestions are also another good approach
catgirl replied 7 years ago
Randomly looking at stuff on Nordstrom now (hey, I'm trapped at home). Any of these strike a chord?
Olen replied 7 years ago
May I put my two cents in too?.. To me, your haircut looks more delicate than tough. It would definitely go well with geometrically minimal clothes, but the lines shouldn't be severe. I see something like this blouse http://www.landsend.com/produc.....ku_0=::42S over some wide-leg crops, with approprite accessories.
Me again. Had a few minutes to find some looks - but it was hard, because I can her your voice in my head : no black, no drape, not me , lol....but anyways, I was thinking along the lines of arty as intellectual and crisp and angular and less boho. Those weren't easy to find, I admit. That said, I did find a few pieces that I could see on you - but these are just ideas - many of them aren't linked to a specific site. But, then again, I could just be transferring my own likes over to your body - which means nothing - lol.
Suz replied 7 years ago
Olen and Una, how did you know I have a special need for tops? :)
Truly, I have been top-shopping (with only mixed success) since well before the haircut. Thanks for these suggestions.
Olen, I tend to agree with you about delicate vs. tough. Although some people do seem to read grey as inherently tough.
Rabbit, you are also onto something with your artist's eye. I have been looking in particular at pattern and colour as places I will want to tweak. The hair does read as both more "pattern" and more "statement" now. And it's a neutral vs. a colour so that is doing interesting things that I'll report on later this week. (On the theory this might be instructive to others who plan to go grey.) Necklines are okay since I was already limiting them to those that work with shorter hair and I have a pretty good handle on what works for me that way.
Suz replied 7 years ago
Ah, Lisa, thank you -- you went out of your way on this. I appreciate it.
And sadly, I reward you with more..."not this, not that"....actually, it's good to hear you admit that the kind of thing you are thinking of is not so easy to find because I suspected as much and that's one reason I asked!
It turns out we have ideas about this look and think it is common but the reality of it is actually pretty difficult to buy. Sometimes EF comes close, but then, I'm usually sized out there -- though our own Joy shows us it is possible to wear EF even if slim and rectangular and not tall.
I think some years Club Monaco could work, and there I am not sized out. But this summer's offerings are skewing heavily towards the off-the-shoulder tops.
Astrid replied 7 years ago
Actually, arty architectural made me think back to that one perfect outfit you described for Mrs. Eccentric years ago.
http://youlookfab.com/welookfa.....refine-my-
Remember? Maybe that is what you are looking for.
I added some pics for you of one of my favourite eco brands - Lanius. I love moderate drape paired with just enough structure, I couldn't wear something like the looks Una posted either. I think the pictures of you Gaylene posted are a great example for that too - just enough structure to make drape and volume work for you. I think arty might play more of a role when it comes to detail, texture, pattern, color...
I don't think you need to change your style if you don't want to, but I think the direction you imagined all that time ago would be awesome on you in combination with the grey pixie.
The term "architectural" makes me think of clean, uncluttered lines, bold juxtapositions of elements, structural integrity, and a timeless quality. The designer Max Mara's clothing is an example -- no draping, just good lines and beauty in simplicity. Here are some current offerings at Nordstrom:
http://shop.nordstrom.com/c/max-mara
To me, they also have the "arty" element, but I guess it's a matter of opinion.
Suz replied 7 years ago
Astrid, thank you. So sweet of you to remember that post from long ago.
I think the simplicity and the drama of the two outfits I described is well within my grasp -- but to my mind, they're not really at all outside what I usually wear, so I'm curious about what the differences would be. I may be missing something here...
Love that beautiful blue outfit you posted! The clothes look expertly made.
Suz replied 7 years ago
Xtabay, I owned a Max Mara linen jacket years and years ago; I still remember it fondly. The clothes are beautifully made and the designs are clean and simple, yes.
Astrid replied 7 years ago
Xtabay, perfect example! I think "structural integrity" is the key word here.
Suz, I think that's the reason why it's easier for you to pick classic or modern classic items, because they usually have the structural integrity you want.
catgirl replied 7 years ago
I'm back... You're going to wish I was back at work! I think the key is to find images that convey the essence of what resonates with you. Most of my own inspiration folder is just that, inspiration - not to be copied literally, but to provide an aesthetic guideline before seeking actual items.
This top reminded me so much of you. But how I see you and how you see you may well be different!
Astrid replied 7 years ago
Looking at what you wrote back then those outfits sound less "modern classic" to me than your style often is right now. At least it reads like that to me. So those imaginary outfits may have classic lines and structure, but they're a bit different and in some way more out there all the same.
You wrote: "And it's not really "modern classic" as per Angie, either, because it's less fashionista and more edgy in a different way. I'm just not sure WHAT way, exactly."
That's the difference, to me.
pil replied 7 years ago
Speaking of needing tops - and because I can't seem to figure out the finds feature - I'll just post a link. I don't seem to be able to get the link to the ivory to show up, but maybe that isn't even 'your' white.
DonnaF replied 7 years ago
And for something architectural without being at all drapey. . . .
Suz, I'm not sure that this has your name on it, but it probably comes small enough for you because it is Topshop.
What I was thinking was that you could do more black, and more blazers in bold hues.
Or a shirt dress like Angie's..
Or something from COS.
Aquamarine replied 7 years ago
This is such an interesting discussion. I am looking forward to seeing how or even if you go in another style direction. But I also agree that to me, your hair is not *that* radically different than before. And as you noted in another thread, maybe just your colors may need to be tweaked.
Inge replied 7 years ago
It's so fun to think about this, and see all the different interpretations:-)
I think an Arty Architectural effect can be achieved through all of the below (separately or a combination of). Here are some descriptors (throwing in examples for inspiration):
> Pleats
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070492126/
> Subtle peplum
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070492161/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070781063/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070744399/
> Good shoulder fit, great tailoring, a structured element...
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070495429/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517071115542/
> Controlled drape
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517067256319/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517066013269/
> Jewellery or accessories with clean, sleek lines
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070875884/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070714251/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517069500260/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517065935009/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/325103666833702032/
> Interesting sleeve detailing
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070963731/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070491774/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070725850/
> High-low hemlines
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517066597278/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070492238/
> Rounded or angular lines (or combination of both)
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517069445562/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070698065/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070680982/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070491971/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070491850/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070752860/
> Wraparound or belted items
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517069892649/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517069892560/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517071115140/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070492254/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070492217/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070492183/
A piece like this Angie Top Pick would be fantastic:
http://youlookfab.com/finds/item/?product=50431
> Creative layering (asymmetrical / (self)-patterns / pattern mixing / high-low styles...)
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517069971424/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517069461978/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517071192824/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070713810/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070698154/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517066144055/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517065820424/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070492101/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070752893/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070752858/
> Well-placed colour blocking
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070119867/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517069407136/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070439554/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517069407120/
> Minimal A-line with interesting design details
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070119851/
> Texture-rich fabrics
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517069919415/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517069951408/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517071053274/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070811736/
> Stripes going in different directions
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517069941754/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517069920107/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070492004/
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517070766794/
> Long over long
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/246642517069919413/
skylurker replied 7 years ago
I think of these outfits as arty architectural : clean, structured lines, with some bold texture, pattern or contrast, thrown in.
deb replied 7 years ago
What about any of these?
Suz replied 7 years ago
Aquamarine, thank you! More posts to come!
Smittie, I'd love a colourful jacket. I have a shirt dress like Angie's. And next time I'm in Toronto I will check out Cos.
Donna, great reminder about Topshop. They sell some items at the Bay and that means they're available to me.
Pil -- that's a great top! Love it. They don't have the ivory in my size but they do have a gorgeous teal.... hmmmm....
Astrid, I think those outfits really were modern classic. I just wanted them to be something different. Or I thought they were something different because they were "modern" and when I thought classic I thought only classic. If that makes sense. Interesting that you see my style as more classic than in the past. I will have to cogitate on that. You might be right...I do know it is more minimal in many ways than in the past.
I think back then I was longing for what I thought of as artiness or edge. And I tried that out, but didn't end up liking it. :)
Una, gorgeous top! And good choice for me, I think -- though maybe less so with the grey. I'm feeling less pattern for up top on the whole...because the hair is more variegated.
Anyway, your point about a vision board is well taken. I can do a new Pinterest board or something as an aspirational thing....
Suz replied 7 years ago
Oh my goodness, look at all those pins!! Thank you, Inge!! Off to browse.
Deb, beautiful choices and a store I can order from...
Skylurker, I see what you mean. Love the first one.
Vix replied 7 years ago
Hi Suz --
I have no real idea what folks mean by the term ("severe chic"? "crisp creative"?) but I'd google Robin Wright as Claire Underwood [House of Cards] -- more Season 1 and 2 than later -- and see if anything resonates.
Also why not google for architects known for their style as well as work?
ps interesting re print and hair -- I feel more need for print/patterns given my variegated mop
Astrid replied 7 years ago
Suz, that makes sense!
Sal replied 7 years ago
You always look great Suz and there is no need to change your style...Here are some pics I found that I can see you wearing and looking fab in, but they are actually very similar to things I have seen you wearing!!
This has been very entertaining, and educational at the same time. And remember that thread we had recently about procrastinating and work and doodling around on the internet instead.......?
I was one of the guilty ones suggesting some sort of change, and I've been thinking about this all day. Part of what prompted it was the immediate connection to graphic prints and more black and white outfits - which go hand in hand with severe grey pixies. Add some red lipstick, some jewellery, and it's a given. I was reacting then to the mid-tones that you were wearing (the soft blue shirt and the printed skirt) in terms of them being too soft and too conservative for your new hair. But it's all a matter of opinion, isn't it? What do I know? You've often referred to Jean Seberg. Her style was casual, but not too feminine and flowery. You have the body type to go more 60's/70's in look - with some bolder colours......but , none of this matters if it holds little appeal for you.
This has been interesting, because we can all be amateur stylists, but it comes down to the wearer - and her comfort with what someone else's vision is. I know that some of my thoughts are wishful thinking on my own part, or projecting my style on you. I only WISH I had a petite slim body that could rock a grey pixie. I'd be out there in white shirts and black trousers and leather jackets and red lipstick and high heels and would never come home ! Sigh.
Angie replied 7 years ago
I'm very pressed for time today Suz, but FWIW, I'm chiming in fast and furiously. I was nodding along with everything that Janet, UmmLila, Astrid and Shannon wrote. I'll add my 2 cents too:
Have to run! Much love to you, Suz.
Suz replied 7 years ago
Angie, thanks for chiming in on a super busy day. I will give it a bit of time! And shop my closet. :)
I expect I will end up with a slightly longer pixie, particularly the front, but I have to say I feel comfortable in very short again. It has been a while. I was looking for photos of my super short pixies over the years but couldn't locate them, alas. I wanted to compare -- if memory serves, only one of those cuts was this short . Most had a bit more softness at front and sides. But I'm paradoxically liking the severity of this. Go figure. I guess I was truly ready for change.
Lisa, I like the idea of more drama and (gasp!) I might even go for more graphic black and white!! (More on that in another post). And I am all for 60s mod. So you're not totally off base here. (Also, you are totally on point re the jewellery.) I doubt I'd ever give up my blues, though. :)
I was struggling to see how different it really would be from my usual style, though. As Gaylene has showed, I do in fact wear graphic black and white, or colour blocking...the floral full skirt is a total wild card and not really representative of my usual style at all!
Gaylene replied 7 years ago
Back home for a few minutes and just want to throw out a few thoughts I had when I made that comment on your earlier thread.
To my eye, both your cropped pixie AND your full skirt/tucked shirt outfit were equally lovely, but they didn't quite come together for me. Theoretically a pixie is a pixie, but, in reality, it's way more complicated. Annie Lennox's pixie is modern, sculptural, and edgy; Audrey's pixie is delicate, cute, and very feminine. Part of the difference is facial structure, but I suspect personality (and maybe Kibbe type) are also important.
All of this is just a roundabout way of trying to say I think you have choices here. Do you want to keep your current, ultra-cropped, grey pixie and explore the Annie Lennox-ish side of your style by playing with more sculptural looks like those color blocking ones of yours I posted? Or, would you prefer to wait it out until your cut grows out a bit so you can go for Audrey's feminine, classic-modern look like you've shown us in your full skirt/tucked shirt look. If the latter, I think you need to look for ways to meld the sculptural qualities of your pixie with the femininity of Audrey's girlish gamine style as an interim style.
Personally, I think the term "arty architectural" is way too broad to be useful to you because you already have a strong personal style and I'm not sure you want, or need, to copy anyone else's "look". Once you figure out where you want to push the boundries of YOUR personal style, you'll get lots of ideas from Angie and the rest of the forum on how you can explore those areas.
Aida replied 7 years ago
Interesting discussion! I don't have much to add, though what Janet wrote really jives with my thoughts. I feel like, perhaps, "artful" rather than "arty" is what you're after.
Skylurker, I looooove the examples you posted! I dunno about for Suz, but definitely for me ;)
anne replied 7 years ago
Suz, I am work so am very quickly posting and running, but what do you think of the type of styles here?
Not always the colours, but the styles.
Staysfit replied 7 years ago
My head is reeling because there is so much to think about here! I say go slow here and adjust to your new look. You may have an epiphany if you slow down, listen and look very closely........ (I'm feeling very Zen at the moment)
Jaime replied 7 years ago
Wow I want to gobble up this thread. As one of those that may have said something about arty, architectural, I want to retract! Well at least the arty word as it has too many spurious associations. I like what Janet said about architectural, and I think Gaylene's reference to your past outfits is very helpful.
But to clarify, I think I was responding to a sometimes voiced by you desire to move to a more (not sure what) style. Perhaps the word is representative. As in representing your self.
Una, I love your images and please send me the link to your pinterest board right now!
catgirl replied 7 years ago
Haha- here you go! It's very repetitive and endless.
Jaime replied 7 years ago
Thank you! That's service!
Deborah replied 7 years ago
Awesome thread and I promise I will read in full when not at work:)
Suz, I don't see you are 'arty' but I can imagine what I think of as architectural but I would see you mixing that with items that are 'soft' and 'feminine'. Your new hair makes me think of women like Audrey Hepburn, and Judi Dench. There are others but they just don't come to mind right now.
Your haircut, to me, says... 'crisp, cool, modern, interesting'. To be honest arty (my definition anyway) doesn't sit well when I think of you - I don't view my own style as 'arty' - arty to me is the women featured on the Advanced Style blog. I am sorry that I am at work otherwise I'd look for some pics. Modern with a little edge is what keeps coming to mind. For example, tailored slim fit pants and a white button down with a interesting twist to the design. The mixing of items that are classic and streamlined with items that are interesting and unexpected. I know I am not being specific but if I can tonight I will search out some pics.
Deb - I know what you mean. I know I didn't articulate the idea of arty or architectural very well at all - those words mean different things to different people.
I feel a little bad for being one of those who made that comment /suggestion because I haven't been able to put into pictures what I'm thinking about. But then again, I'm not sensing , Suz, that changes really are on your mind now anyways....as others have noted. It's always a work in progress :)
danskogirl replied 7 years ago
Suz: Your style, mixed with architectural style, makes me think of images like these:
Cococat replied 7 years ago
My take on arty architectural:
https://au.pinterest.com/pin/84301824253006490/
https://au.pinterest.com/pin/84301824253006492/
https://au.pinterest.com/pin/84301824252876166/
https://au.pinterest.com/pin/84301824252847590/
https://au.pinterest.com/pin/84301824252788605/
https://au.pinterest.com/pin/84301824252724952/
https://au.pinterest.com/pin/84301824252495624/
https://au.pinterest.com/pin/84301824252412509/
https://au.pinterest.com/pin/84301824252385563/
Suz replied 7 years ago
Thank you all for weighing in with images. You've given me so much to think about and consider!! I appreciate your taking the time and trouble to explain your thinking.
Based on this, I suspect that people were responding to the drama of the cut and my bone structure and looking for me to play that up. Perhaps a feminine, floral full skirt (my wildcard, note -- not a normal wardrobe item for me!) is a bit too sweet now with the grey. I get that. (Darn, though -- waste of money!! Psst...anyone want a pretty silk skirt...?)
And I do in fact like the idea of a bit more drama in my style -- as many of you know, I've been seeking that for some time, and while most of my experiments have been failures, the hair may open doors that were previously closed and could even help me identify new possibilities! Yahoo!!
I'm not saying that I want or need an instant fashion overhaul; I'll be thinking about this over the next few months as I edit out a few summer items than no longer work as well. In the fall, once my cut has "settled" a bit into a shape that I will keep for a little while, and once the remaining bits of champagne blonde have all been cut out of it, I'll start buying with some adjusted guidelines in mind. It should be fun!!
I appreciate all your ideas! Having said that, I have to be real with myself and acknowledge that even if I crave a bit more drama, the drama of most of these images is not right for me. Most of these clothes, while beautiful, would be unworkable in my real life. And that is the first requirement, one I learned here at YLF. Beautiful clothes that only sit on hangers will make me sad. :( I need beautiful clothes that don't feel too demanding. I also need a dose of fun or playfulness in my style. And a huge heap of practicality. I know I drive poor Lisa nuts with my "If I can't walk 5 km in these shoes, what good are they?" but honestly? That's me. Luckily I can walk pretty far in the right heel. ;)
Also, I may give up my floral skirt, and I may indeed start to wear black more often (more on that later) but I'm not getting rid of my soft blues or my strong blues or my denim blues, or in short, any of my blues. If black is Deb's signature and white and citron and tomato red are Angie's, blue is mine, and there's a reason for it. Changing my hair colour has, if anything, confirmed this. The hair itself has a blue cast (especially at the back where the gold is all gone).
There. That's my rant for the day! Thanks for humouring me and I'll post more once I'm able to get some photos. :)
Astrid replied 7 years ago
Suz, please don't give up on your pretty Wildcard skirt! For me it was less the skirt and more the combination with the classic button down and sandals. If that makes sense? And of course it was a lovely outfit, it just didn't mesh with your hair in a way that said "Suz" to me.
And you're totally right to stick to the colors that suit you. I wouldn't change a thing when it comes to color if you have manged to reach a point where you know what works. Style changes are easier to implement when you change colors, but that change isn't a necessity. You can always choose bigger contrast/lower contrast/tonal looks within your color palette if you want to. That already makes a lot of difference.
Janet replied 7 years ago
100% agree with Astrid. The skirt is totally workable -- I think you'll just find it suits your style better with a less expected pairing than the button-down and classic sandals. I'm imagining a boxier, slightly cropped sleeveless top in navy, for example.
LaPed replied 7 years ago
I go back and forth between a super-short pixie and a chin length bob, always with an annoying grow-out phase in between. I've been trying
for years to figure out how to navigate the style shift this inevitably entails. I understand what you mean about a severe pixie being a statement in and of itself and requiring a stripped-down aesthetic.
When I think of you I think more "modern edge" than "arty architectural" -- arty and architectural both strike me as too overwhelming or trying-too-hard. I think "tough but breezy" or something along those lines might be more apt. And mod would definitely be a fun route to go -- shift dresses, a-line tunics, colorblocking, bold graphic prints a la Marimekko, etc. I'm on a borrowed phone right now and can't figure out how to do pics, maybe in a bit.
And that silk skirt... what about a white denim jacket? What about some tougher sandals -- gladiator style? Studded? Metallic? I think you'll need to contrast the skirt with some more androgynous elements, but it's such a fabulous summery piece, and the colors are perfect for you, so I wouldn't write it off.
Good luck with this! I love the hair (it really does read Jean Seberg to me!) and I think you have a lot of great options already.
cobaltblue replied 7 years ago
Posting from my phone and should be studying, but:
Don't give up on the skirt!!
Suz replied 7 years ago
Haha, Janet, that would be the Zara top that I had to give up since it was stained and pilled and that I cannot find a replacement for....sigh....
I'm realizing that my associations to classic button downs may be different than other people's. Hmmm. More food for thought!
But yes, LaPed, I have white and blue denim jackets and some grey sandal booties and other footwear, so I can toughen up the look if I like with that skirt. :) Thank you for the suggestions. I agree 100% that "architectural" would read as "trying too hard" on me and "arty" mostly overwhelms or distracts.
Thanks, Becky! :) And thanks, Astrid, for the styling thoughts and colour confirmation.
Ledonna N. replied 7 years ago
Hey Suz this is what I would love to see you in. I thought about what you said. I don't want to change who you are but I could see you playing. So came from the angle of let's really play. I n loved reading different responses.
Suz replied 7 years ago
You know what I love about photos 1, 2, and 6? Those women have serious attitude. That's the key. :) Maybe the drama comes less from the clothes themselves than how a person wears them. Thanks, Ledonna. :)
rachylou replied 7 years ago
Ok, the skirt and button down and sandals was a preppy look, but I like preppy...
AviaMariah replied 7 years ago
I haven't read any other replies so I may be totally off base here... I had a bit of (what I think may be) an ah ha moment when I read Angie's latest blog post with her drapey, floral top. I have always been drawn to drapey, artsy looks but they look horrid on my because the drapey-ness overwhelms me and makes my already narrow, sloping shoulder look even more so. I finally decided to avoid anything drapey because it doesn't work for me. Well when Angie explained that her top works on her because she made sure the neck/shoulder area are still tailored and fitted I felt a spark of hope! Maybe I can do drapey, arty, dramatic it just can't be drapey or have extra fabric around the shoulders. I haven't actually put this into practice yet but it's a little nugget I am tucking aside for later shopping experiments. All that to say... what about something along the lines of what Angie wore in that post? Dramatic, pretty, current and playful to go along with the new hair?
Elizabeth P replied 7 years ago
Hey Suz... I've been reading with interest, but no time or brain power to articulate a good answer. But this comment hit me... And I do in fact like the idea of a bit more drama in my style --
as many of you know, I've been seeking that for some time, and while
most of my experiments have been failures, the hair may open doors that
were previously closed and could even help me identify new
possibilities! Yahoo!
I am going suggest that maybe, just maybe, this style IS you? I just doubt that you'd be trying/seeing something for a long time that really isn't. And that perhaps it was your previous cut/colour that was what was not working? For example, I know that for me, coming clean with my hair has made it so obvious that angles and high contrast are ME. they go with short silver asymmetrical hair, they didn't go with a long brown pony tail. So even if I'd tried them 3-4 years ago, they'd have felt wrong. Despite how right they are.
Wait until all your colour is gone, because it still will be influencing you, then start experimenting again. Let's see what happens :)
Aida replied 7 years ago
A thought: This hair, on its own, is going to add drama you didn't have before. Once you sort color out you may find that stylistically you don't actually need to move too much further away (or maybe you do, who knows!). Also, please keep that floral skirt! It's gorgeous. At least for a little bit, while you get adjusted. I think it's totally wearable in a way that feels right.
Deborah replied 7 years ago
Suz I am a bit overwhelmed by all the fantastic info and suggestions on this thread lol.
Do you have any 'style icons' (for want of a better word) who wear gorgeous silver pixie cuts or similar?? Elisa Nalin usually dresses in a very colourful fashion but I think you *might* relate to her style. You would give it your own flavour of course, I am not thinking you would copy her, simply she could provide some inspo. Just search her up on Pinterest and there are some awesome outfit photos.
We have a gorgeous newsreader here called Jessica Rowe and she has an awesome pixie cut. Here is the link a general google search I did https://www.google.com.au/sear.....38;bih=498 there is a lot event outfits but I like her day to day and more minimal looks. Makes me think of you :)
Suz are you are your daughter on Instagram? Check out this account
https://www.instagram.com/annna_karenina/?hl=en or search user name annna_kareeninaew. Her style is seriously cool. Again not suggesting her look it you, but might be some inspiration for you.
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