Another Theory, and a penny for your thoughts

Warning: Many pics! 

With no final decision on the BR suit yet, I picked up the Theory Lanai (navy pinstripe) and the Testra trousers today for comparison. 

Once again, I was plagued by poor light, so I fear the detail is lost on these. If the weather improves I may ask Mr. Suz to take a few outdoor shots of both suits tomorrow. I did try to lighten some photos. 

I tried some of the same combinations as in my previous post to aid comparison (i.e. with jeans, with a skirt, with a dress, pants with a different top.) 

#9 shows the jacket with my Theory Emerys. 

#10 shows the Lanai jacket with the BR straight trousers (as yet unhemmed so falling down at the bottom).

FInal pic (18) is the BR suit for comparison. I really wish the detail was showing better here. 

I am not going to say a lot here because I'm genuinely curious about your responses. 

Apologies for the spotty bathroom mirror. Was trying to show a bit more detail. 

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60 Comments

  • Jaime replied 10 years ago

    Suz I am going to try to bracket all things I have read about this jacket and you and this jacket and others and just give you my first impression. I love it! I am willing to over analyze later if need be.

  • Jaime replied 10 years ago

    Oh dear I had to look again and see I have totally ignored the question of the trousers. The theory ones are more tapered. They are different beasts. I need outdoor pictures. Please ask Mr. Suz nicely for me!

  • deb replied 10 years ago

    I like the Theory better. The cut is not your normal suit cut like the BR. To me it has more edge. I love the jacket with the jeans. Well, I just love it on you.

  • Suz replied 10 years ago

    Shevia, that is absolutely correct. The Theory trousers are an entirely different species. I'm not sure what they are supposed to be; in the stock photos they are cropped! On me they are regular length, slouchy, and tapered, whereas the BRs are classic straight trousers. So in that sense we're comparing apples to oranges. 

    I hope our weather will cooperate for outdoor pictures!

  • Deborah replied 10 years ago

    As always the darker items are so hard to photograph. From what I can see, the jacket fit looks good particularly the shoulders. Comparing the two jackets (Theory & BR) the Theory is a sharper almost 'harsher' cut jacket (I can't find the right word:() Don't get me wrong, I really like it, and have something very similar. The BR has a softness to it which I think relates to its shape and length. Both look very good on you, I think it just comes down to what you are wanting for your wardrobe... I know I am no help.

  • Amy replied 10 years ago

    I much prefer the theory. The fit on both looks good, but the theory looks sharper, more modern.

  • Janet replied 10 years ago

    I love the Theory blazer on you. In fact, I'm having a hard time seeing why there was hesitation that it would be fab on you. I think it looks very flattering and has more personality than the BR, yet it's still classic enough to have longevity.

    The pants being evaluated are in 6-7-8? They are quite tapered, and they appear fairly baggy on you, but that may be due to the taper. It's hard to evaluate those.

  • Elly replied 10 years ago

    I love the theory blazer, but for some reason don't like it as a suit. I like it when paired with a contrasting separates outfit which draws horizontal lines. For some reason it seems very torso elongating.

  • Mo replied 10 years ago

    First gut reaction is I prefer the Theory.  I like the lapels coming in at a point near the waist to add interest.  I love the fit on you.

    Now to go see what others think . . . 

    heh, I didn't even see that it was a whole suit - I thought it was just jackets comparing with the same slacks.  Will get back to you ;)

  • Sveta replied 10 years ago

    I like the Theory jacket but I am not sure about the trousers: they seem to have a weird butt shape from the side. They fit similar to how BR trousers fit me ad i could not stand it. However this is what I am very sensitive about this area so you can very well ignore me here :)

  • Transcona Shannon replied 10 years ago

    I will be honest Suz and say I hesitate to even comment on this jacket as I'm not sure I can be objective.

    I think it looks great on you. The close up bathroom mirror pic does show the bit of excess fabric above the bust and below the shoulder. I have a wee bit of that too - I suspect it's because we are petite. This is not a deal breaker IMHO.

    It's interesting to see how it fits each of us so differently. Because you have slimmer hips than I do, it hangs straighter, which is neither good nor bad, just an observation.

    Now I will ask you what you asked me - what do you think?

    As for the pants, it's hard to tell.

  • Makrame replied 10 years ago

    It's so hard to judge the fit of dark colored items in photos - if Shannon had not mentioned a tiny bit of bunching on the jacket in the mirror photo, I would not have noticed.  Aside from that tiny fit issue, I like both jackets but I am partial to the Lanai because of the more edgy/interesting cut.  

  • Suz replied 10 years ago

    Thank you so much, all, for your thoughts. 

    Shannon, you know what? I honestly don't know what to think. I took the bathroom mirror pic on purpose to show that fit issue. This is what Angie had been warning me about and what Marley experienced.  It fits the model the same way, if you notice. Which doesn't necessarily mean it's okay. 

    Anyway, it's less pronounced than I expected it to be, and I'm not sure how noticeable it would be to someone who wasn't looking for it, if you know what I mean. (And I know you do, LOL!) 

    The pants are a bit weird, to be honest. Not sure what I think of them. I sized up, because while I could do up my normal size it didn't feel right and they were tight on the front of my thighs while being baggy on the back. So I decided to go with the larger. These are most certainly baggy and slouchy. At first I hated them, but they are sort of growing on me. 

    I really hope I can get some photos of this in the daylight tomorrow because I recognize that it's well nigh impossible to judge accurately due to the lighting. 

  • Joy replied 10 years ago

    In general, I like the shape of the Theory blazer best although the BR is more classic and may have more staying power.  I like the Theory blazer best with the shape of the BR pants.

  • Vildy replied 10 years ago

    By far, I prefer the front cut of the Theory. That might not have been true before I saw the Theory on you but now that I see the comparison, I like it lots better.  Just going from the picture in the bathroom mirror, I would say you might benefit from an additional front shoulder pad or pads. This is no big deal. When I put shoulder pads in or change the location or elevation of a pad,  I like to shift them so that I get more padding below front shoulder. You might need that, too. It can have more to do with slope of shoulders than anything to do with bustline. Why don't you approximate this bit of stuffing and see what you think. Anyway, it's easy enough for a good tailor to see and do. Alternatively, actual slope of shoulders can be changed if necessary. I just think the cut in center front is much saucier than the BR's.

  • Beth Ann replied 10 years ago

    So hard to see all the details, but here are some thoughts:

    1.  Love the modern shape of the Theory jacket.  Stunning and sleek.  I'm not bothered by the idea of a little "wrinkling," but I do think the lack of collar and lower stance will mean that you need a soft underlayer and a higher neckline.  Most of your tops, of course, already fit this description.  I thought the length would be too long, but what I see here is perfect for you.

    2.  I like the idea of slouchy tapered trousers with the jacket -- but I'd need a better view to be sure.  I think it's wise to buy a pair of pants with the jacket --- dye lots can change things enough to make items seem "off."

    3.  The jacket looks amazing with the dress and your jeans!

  • Adelfa replied 10 years ago

    I love the jacket and think it looks wonderful on you. I have a little niggling wondering: Is this what you're looking for, or do you want a classic shape after all?

  • Ariadne replied 10 years ago

    I love the jacket, and I prefer it 100 times above the BR one.

    Too tired to try to figure out the rest--I'll leave that to our more with-it forumites ;)

  • Neel replied 10 years ago

    Is something supposed to be wrong in a few of those pics?  Oh dear!  I found all of them beautiful on you!  I'll take a pass! :D

  • Suz replied 10 years ago

    Vildy, that is a thought. It hadn't occurred to me to change out the shoulder pads but I can see that you are right -- I seem to remember that back in the 80s they came in so many shapes and sizes. 

     My shoulder is quite square and not at all sloped. The fit issue arises because I'm small busted and slender framed and don't "fill it out."  As Angie so wisely stated, this cutaway type of jacket best flatters those who are larger in the bust and/ or more apple shaped. 

    I find the comments so interesting and instructive. Thank you again. I am afraid I can't take better photos today because it's dark and raining here. But maybe tomorrow. 

  • Scarlet replied 10 years ago

    Unfiltered response to photo 1, Scarlet says AMAZEBOMBS! Further photo clicking does not change response except that those one trousers need to be hemmed as you note. OMG please keep.

    ETA:
    Now having read the comments, I guess I can see what you and Shannon mean in the close up picture. Hmm. Well colored me waiting for what Angie says because I love the low stance on you. As I have just spent an extended time in a WiFi desert, I am not sure what the whole pants discussion is.

  • Vildy replied 10 years ago

    It would also be possible to put in a dart going from shoulder line part way towards bust point.  I'd check with a good tailor.

  • Transcona Shannon replied 10 years ago

    Ok...just looked again at the pics and enlarged the heck out of them as well as looked at the pics the size you posted.

    The back of the jacket fits positively divinely if you ask me. Much better than mine does.

    The shoulder fit is also spot on.

    I absolutely love the way the jacket hangs on you with such an easy elegance. Very beautiful. This one is the wool blend correct? Nicer fabric for draping than the fabric in mine which is a bit stiffer and therefore adds a bit more structure which on me, I prefer since it gives me shape I don't have naturally.

    The color of course is fab and perfect for your wardrobe.

    As for the "trouble area" we both know the average person isn't going to see this but since we now know it's there, is it going to drive you crazy? Would a size smaller eliminate that?

    I've also looked at the pants more closely and am actually kinda digging the menswear vibe they have. Not sure if I like them with the jacket though.

    So how are you feeling about it all today? What is your happiness factor Suz?

  • replied 10 years ago

    Hi Suz, I'm a bit late to this party but I agree that the Theory is a lovely style jacket on you. I looked at the close up picture of it and I could instantly tell that the problem is one I seen before in that collarless type of style. What it is, is that the back neck is probably cut a little narrow and I suspect that if you grab hold of the collar either side of you neck and pull down slightly then the wrinkles will go and it may prove my theory (pardon the pun!). The jacket doesn't settle to your neck contours due to a bit too narrow neck across the back. I've made many a jacket in that style neck and I encounter that a lot. I usually have to tweak the pattern a little. To be honest though it really doesn't show up much on you and as you said, its not a deal breaker. I love how you styled it in all iterations.

  • Transcona Shannon replied 10 years ago

    Diane - very interesting! I wonder if this relates to how Una suggested that on me, she wanted to tug the shoulders back a bit?

    Suz you might want to give that a try. I did sit the jacket a wee bit further back on me and it did make a difference.

  • replied 10 years ago

    Definitely it relates. You feel like you want to push the edge of the shoulders back when really you need to pull the inner neck edge down. I could tell straight away by the direction the wrinkles pointed.

  • Suz replied 10 years ago

    Shannon, thank you for that detailed set of observations. It's really helpful especially since you have real experience with this jacket. 

    You're correct -- this one is wool. It's a very lightweight summer wool. About the same as the BR suit fabric. The trousers are not lined (as they are in the BR suit) but they don't itch. On the other hand, as a winter trouser they would provide approximately zero warmth. ;-) 

    I think I need to try both on again. My feelings are truly all over the map. My first impression (when I put on the pants, which I tried on first in the bathroom of the "my US address" place so I could immediately post the ones that did not fit  for return)  -- Errrr, um, eeew.....I don't know about this. Then I put shoes on and felt differently about them. They're sort of swaggery man pants. 

    As for the jacket, initial reaction was -- Fits way better and looks way better than I'd anticipated. Worth considering. 

    That's more a thought than a feeling. Interesting. 

    Mr. Suz's reactions may be colouring my own. He really did not like the pants (even though he likes my black slouchy trousers) and he immediately noticed and picked on the fit issue with the jacket, saying that it bothered him.

    He also doesn't like pinstripes and the Theory has a faint pinstripe. I do like pinstripes so that part of his opinion I am happy to ignore. But his feelings about the pattern may be colouring his other reactions and I need to keep that in mind. He tends to fixate at first on things he does not care for. 

    He said, "The Theory is 'sexier' but it doesn't fit as well."

    Interesting comment, no?

    He prefers the BR suit and says that jacket fits perfectly. Which it does. But then again, he has a much more classic, "preppy" taste and his eye takes some time to adjust to new looks on me. Over time, if I love something and wear it happily, he always comes around. 

  • Suz replied 10 years ago

    Diane, that's really interesting. Is there a way to get a seamstress to make an adjustment, do you think? I did some tweaking (pulling it back and such) and it just came back with movement. It's more on one side than the other. And as I said, it is a lot less noticeable than I had anticipated. 

  • Transcona Shannon replied 10 years ago

    Hubby comments can definitely cloud our own judgement, consciously or subconsciously.

    "The Theory is sexier" - I agree with that actually. It has a bit more edge in its style.

    I think you need Angie's feedback to help sort this out Suz. You trust her eye and since it was Angie who felt the jacket might not work but said to try it, you probably need her assessment to "close the deal".

  • replied 10 years ago

    To be honest Suz, I don't find it overly noticeable either but if you did want someone to have a look it may be possible to experiment with them letting a little out in the back neck seam or try Vildy's suggestion of a dart at the side of the neck at the front, which may also help.

  • Suz replied 10 years ago

    Thank you, Diane. That is good information. I will play around with it a bit more. 

    And you are right Shannon! 

  • Angie replied 10 years ago

    The Lanai is killer beautiful on you, Suz. When you wear a high neckline underneath - it totally works. Your renditions here are 100% perfect. 

    As for the trousers. I like the jacket with both the bootcuts and the tapered slouchies. Does the Lanai match the BR trousers? 

  • Transcona Shannon replied 10 years ago

    Whoo hoo! There you have it Suz!

    You wear your jacket with high necklines and I'll wear mine with lower necklines ok?

  • Angie replied 10 years ago

    There you go Suz and Shannon. All sorted and I'm thrilled for you. The only thing left to do is to wear the heck out of the jackets. 

  • Suz replied 10 years ago

    Wow, Angie -- amazing! Do you not mind that little wrinkle at the top? Mr. Suz is very fussed about it. He says that it looks like it does not fit right and it bugs him to look at it. Oy! 

    I am wearing 3 different trousers in these pictures. 

    The first are the Testras by Theory; they match the jacket and go with it. Nordstrom's doesn't seem to have the exact ones online anymore. They are supposed to be cropped (but aren't, on me) and I sized up so they do not fit like they fit on the models. On me they are baggy and slouchy except at the hipbone where they fit snug. (Basically they have extra fabric everywhere else -- slouchy crotch point, baggy bum, legs, etc. with a taper towards the bottom.) 

    In pic 9 I am trying the jacket with the Theory Emery wide legs in charcoal. 

    In pic 10, I am wearing the BR straight legs (not properly hemmed yet so they hang crooked.) 

    The Lanai doesn't match the BR pants perfectly, but it's not bad. I would need to look in actual daylight, which is in awfully short supply here today (pouring rain and dark). 

  • Angie replied 10 years ago

    Suz, I don't find the wrinkle disturbing - I did see it. It's because you can't fill out the style 100% - the same wrinkle happened with Marley when she fitted on the Lanai for my opinion is Santa Monica last weekend. And the same wrinkle-thing happens to me with this jacket. As soon as I put on a collared Theory blazer which has a sleeker fit on the shoulder and chest (the pattern is cut shorter) - the wrinkle disappears. 

    THAT SAID, the wrinkle is very little. And the jacket fits beautifully everywhere else. My thumbs are still up, up, up. 

    Suz, I can barely see a difference between the tapered leg trousers in the pics. I defer to your judgement. 

  • Trishalee replied 10 years ago

    This thread has been VERY educational for me.  I'm working on developing an eye and everyone's comments is helping me to see the things I need to be looking at specifically.  

    Suz-you look beautiful and confident in every shot.  You have lovely taste and and really know what works on you.  If I saw you on the street I would think "there is someone whose look I need to copy for myself."

  • Suz replied 10 years ago

    Trishalee, thank you! 

    Angie, thank you, also. So...you and Marley both felt she should pass on the style. Do you think I would also do better to try a different Theory? Because of course this one is returnable if I choose. 

    The Gabe B jacket is now also on sale at Nordstrom's. It is a much more classic style. Also, it is 52% poly (vs. almost 100% wool for this Lanai). And it's not as edgy looking. More similar to the BR jacket (although it has a one button stance vs. the BR's two button.) The length of all the jackets is approximately the same. 

    I'm not sure I could find matching pants for this one, but I haven't actually looked yet. 

    Now that I have this "my US address" thing figured out, it's not too bad to get things shipped to the border and then bring them back; I can send returns for free from the post office next door at the same time. It's an hour there, an hour back -- not too bad as long as the weather holds. (I won't be doing it in winter when the bridge freezes.) 

  • Angie replied 10 years ago

    The Gabe was outstanding on Marley - and Vicki. Both ladies are shorter than me. That's why I found it a little short for myself - because you know - I split hairs about the lengths of things. It will probably be killer on you too. Sooooooooooooo, try it. For Mr. Suz, especially. You enjoy the process of fit and analysis, Suz - and I like that. It's a fun journey. I am here to help and support you all the way. xo

  • Suz replied 10 years ago

    Alrighty then! The comparison games continue! :-) 

  • Angie replied 10 years ago

    I fixed my typos :(

  • Traci replied 10 years ago

    I like that there are several pant fits in the same fabric as the Gabe, and a dress to boot!

  • ManidipaM replied 10 years ago

    I wish you could get the lot. I only see awesome.

  • Transcona Shannon replied 10 years ago

    Looking forward to seeing the Gabe on you too Suz. It will be fun to compare.

  • AviaMariah replied 10 years ago

     I just really quickly flipped through your pics so didn't take the time to "dissect" the trousers but my first impression is that you look spectacular in every single picture and I think you could wear any of these without hesitation.  I feel like I'm about to knowingly give the wrong answer in class but I LOVE the Theory jacket on you!!!  While I like the BR jacket too, I feel like the Theory jacket gives you a little edge - maybe that's not what you're looking for but I love it!  Now off to read what others said.

  • Vix replied 10 years ago

    Hi Suz --

    My .02, worth price paid. ;)

    Overall, I really like the Theory jacket on you and really, really, dislike the crotch area bunching of the Theory Testra pants. [Not too keen on the back view, either.] That would be a deal breaker for sure for me, so if you only want to keep the jacket as part of a suit....

    I'm going to be a little hypocritical about the fit issues of the jacket because they bother me a lot more in what's supposed to be a sleek wool jacket vs one in a more casual fabric (for instance, I have a leather blazer that's cut the same in the front and has some weird-ish wrinkling I chose to overlook). I would LOVE for you to get this tailored as our fit experts have suggested. Then you and Mr Suz could enjoy it equally. ;)

    I also have a Gabe B and agree the fit is likely a good one. However, mine is 98% wool vs this new deal the line is doing, grrrrr. You may hate the feel of the fabric or you may be fine with it. Obviously for warmth and breathability the higher wool content is better.

    My vote: either keep the BR for your suit + keep the (tailored) Theory jacket since it's clearly versatile and you wear a lot of blazers -- or keep looking.

  • lyn67 replied 10 years ago

    I am not a great connaisseur on your brands overseas Suz, and think Angie and others sorted you out already on your points, just wanted to add, I like much better the cut and fit of the Theory Lanai jacket in all  of it's incarnations. I am also not a pants expert eye, but I like those  in nr. 9 the very very  best if that matters.

  • catgirl replied 10 years ago

    I knew it would work for you, Suz, as long as you had a higher neckline under it - and it does!  I haven't read the comments yet but I don't see why you can't keep both, as they are both incredibly gorgeous on you in different ways.  The Lanai is so unique in my closet in how it can be conservative, edgy, casual, dressy - it is my everything jacket. 

    Yay, Theory lemmings!

  • Marley replied 10 years ago

    This does not look bad on you at all!  Much better on you than on Vicki and me - from what I can see in the pictures.  It's hard for me to give an honest opinion of the jacket - because I love the cut of the front!  That was what was so hard for me to give up when Angie steered me to the Gabe instead - which fit me perfectly!  The Gabe is a gorgeous jacket - just not as "fun" as the Lanai.  Also, I tried the Testras - and they also were like full length trousers for me.  I was very disappointed in the thinness of the fabric though - and I never tried on my size (because they didn't have it in the store) - and so I was trying on a couple sizes bigger than what I would wear.  But - I did kind of like them - and would have seriously considerd them (in the proper size) if the Lanai had worked.  (sob - still grieving about that jacket!)

  • Suz replied 10 years ago

    I appreciate all the insights. Thank you!

    Marley, I find it hard to believe that the jacket would look better on me than on you and Vicki, but if it does it might be just because I am a smidge taller. Anyway, I may still be grieving along side you. I intend to get some clearer pics if the weather ever lets up. I have this feeling that the drawbacks of the Theory and the pluses of the BR are not truly showing in the photos. 

    And Vix, I tend to agree about the pants. Those Testras are weird items. In some of the stock photos they show them skin tight. But that does not seem right for the cut of the pant. So I sized up. But I fear that maybe the rise is simply too low for me. In which case I might be out of luck when it comes to a Theory suit, period, unless I want the wide leg Emery trousers (which do fit me...or did...in their older incarnation. With the new cut and fabric, who knows?) 

    I am a bit scared to get the Lanai tailored because I do not know anyone who does actual tailoring around here. Always seems risky going to a new person for an important job, you know? 

    AviaMaria - there are no wrong answers in this class! 

  • MsMary replied 10 years ago

    All I have to say is that these kinds of discussions are pretty much above my pay grade.  But you look awesome in every photo and I think you should do what makes you happy!  So there!

  • CocoLion replied 10 years ago

    Suz, I think you look great in all of the jackets.  I do think the Lanai works on you.  It might be because of your stronger shoulder line which you share with Una.  (Marley is around 5'5" so it's not her height getting in the way of this jacket.)  You could try the other jacket for comparison, but I do like the Lanai jacket on you and so does everyone else it seems.  The other jacket (Gabe?) is more classic but might stand the test of time better than the Lanai.

    As for pants, the tetras (?) testras (?) shown in the first pictures look too long to me.  The tapered ankle is causing bunching at various points which makes the pants look less refined.  If you shortened them to ankle length they might work better.  Or, if that is not something you are going for, I like the BR straight legged trousers on you, better than the wide-legged Theory trousers.

  • CocoLion replied 10 years ago

    Oh and I now see the wrinkling issue on the Lanai but it is only on one side.  Maybe you just need to adjust it properly when dressing?  Sometimes just a pull here or there is what's needed.  Anyway if that's not the case I do understand if it's an issue of an uneven shoulder line.  My left shoulder is nice and square.  My right shoulder slopes.  I don't know if it's an overdeveloped muscle on my shoulder due to being right handed.  For whatever reasons, I am very uneven -- the right bra strap frequently comes off.

  • Suz replied 10 years ago

    Thanks, Denise. Interesting - - Marley is convinced that her shoulders are wider than mine. Hmm. Well, it just goes to show you that every body is different. And you can never tell until you try something on whether it will work or won't work. 

    ETA - the wrinkling is actually on both sides, I see now, but it depends how I am holding myself how obvious it is. I did do adjustments but it comes right back when I move around. It's just the way this cut is going to fit me I think. 

    Yes, the Testras might be long. (Hilarious -- since they are supposed to be ankle pants!) Or then again, they might just fit badly, period! I think that's more likely. I rejected the pair in my regular size because they didn't fit at all. I could do them up but they were too tight and just yuck. 

    ETA: or maybe they are just too tapered for the shoes/ booties. They might work better with a pump. I don't actually think they are too long. But I do need pants that work with a bootie in my climate. 

    An ankle length suit pant would be stupid for me. I couldn't wear them enough in my climate. And I do want a suit, so if the pants won't work the whole thing might go back. Which would be fine. I am in no huge rush for this. 

  • Marley replied 10 years ago

    Suz - Vicki measured my shoulders for me one time (we have matching tape-measures - I saw them in a little boutique about a year ago and just had to get them!  Vicki's is neon pink and mine is neon orange - amazing how handy they are when you are shopping!)  Anyway, I digress . . . I cannot remember how wide my shoulders are (I'll have my husband measure them again tomorrow) - but I do remember that my shoulders were an inch wider than Vicki's and they may be even wider now because of the work-outs that I've been doing the past 6 months.  I tend to bulk up really fast in my shoulders and arms - and I'd bet money that I'm no longer a rectangle body-shape, but an inverted triangle instead.  Also - like Denise said, I'm just a titch under 5'5" - I think Vicki is 5'4".  I can't remember how tall you are, but for some reason I've always thought of you as being shorter than me!  I cannot wear petites at all and you do at times, right?  Anyway - I am thrilled for you that the Lanai works so well on you (also, a little bit jealous!) - but, I'm also glad that you are going to try the Gabe.  I was so glad that Angie was there to help me confirm for sure what I had reluctantly suspected about the Lanai - but was able to help me find a jacket that fit me perfectly.  I got to tell you that I am learing that fit is much more important than style - a real switch in my thinking!

  • Suz replied 10 years ago

    Marley, you are SO right about that. Without the right fit, it won't look right no matter what. 

    Well, I am 5'4". So Vicki's height and shorter than you. (Actually, I am barely 5'4" so maybe even shorter than Vicki!) I can wear petites sometimes for some things by some makers. So, for instance...dresses and jackets and shirts are sometimes (but not always) okay in petite. But usually I do best to go to a smaller size in regular and hem the sleeves. I can't wear petite pants. 

    I guess bodies are so unique -- it's just hard to predict what will work and what won't. But again, I have this nagging feeling that if Angie were seeing me in person she would be telling me to try a different jacket, you know? If it bothers my husband, it's probably enough to bother Angie. And it bothers me a bit. Is that because I was primed to see it in the first place? I'm not sure. But I want to feel 100% great about this suit, so it's PPP all the way. 

  • replied 10 years ago

    Wow, Suz, I'm just seeing this now and had to add my paltry two cents. Of course I cannot see the details of the fit, of which there has been much discussion, BUT I love the vibe and style of the Theory suit so much for your style. Even if the trousers are baggy and ill-fitting, it looks intentional and slouchy to me. This version is way more Dramatic Classic, while the other (BR?) suit is regular Classic, like Angie said. Even if you need to keep looking, I hope you can find a really cool jacket like this for your suit. Hang in there! PPP. ;)

  • Caro in Oz replied 10 years ago

    Sorry I'm late to this as I've been away for a long weekend. I think I agree with Mr Suz the Theory jacket is sexier/edgier & I love it but the pulling at the shoulder-line would bother me. I do think it is an easy fix for a good tailor. 

  • Janet replied 10 years ago

    I have a thought. If this is not a typical fit issue for you, Suz (the uneven shoulder problem), perhaps it is this particular blazer? I just wondered if maybe that one had some kind of flaw and another one in the same size might not.

    I know my shoulders are very uneven (waves at Denise), so this is not an unusual fit issue for me -- remember the Helmut Lang blazer? But if you never have this problem with other jackets, and this is only happening on one side... well, perhaps it's just that individual piece. I know ordering another one of the exact same thing would be a pain, but I felt compelled to mention it.

    Ya know, just to throw another monkey wrench into the mix. :-)

  • Suz replied 10 years ago

    Gee, thanks, Janet!  :-) 

    In all seriousness, I've never had it before...but I've never tried this kind of jacket, either - except for my Danier, which is made of layered leather and although cutaway, has a higher stance than this one. So...I suspect Angie is right. 

    But I'm heartened by Caro's suggestion that this might be an easy fix for a tailor. I have found a good tailor here. I'm going to take the jacket (with tags on) for a consult. If this person says it's a simple fix, well, maybe I have my answer. But in any case I think I'd still like to try the Gabe to compare. 

    Thanks again everyone for your input. I value everything everyone has said!

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